Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By peeping tom Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:43 am
inflict3 wrote:
t_bias wrote:maybe time to rethink your live style...



i actually struggled with same problem so i went back to basics...


yo, that was sooooooo **** sick!!!



this is what i do yo. pretty easy to break up a finished beat like this too just takes a bit to re-chop.

i try this a lot with loop samples, as you can hit a loop and drum on! T-that real time Q-link pitch down is dope, deff doing to try this!
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By t_bias Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:06 am
@tom - word bro, got any vids/beats/links etc? hit me up like to see what you're doing with it.

the q-link is the basic way of doing it... only just upgraded to 2XL so now i'm messing with the decent pitch envelopes... getting some tape-break, vinyl grab drops and pauses... nice feature. :-D
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By peeping tom Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:56 am
t_bias wrote:@tom - word bro, got any vids/beats/links etc? hit me up like to see what you're doing with it.

the q-link is the basic way of doing it... only just upgraded to 2XL so now i'm messing with the decent pitch envelopes... getting some tape-break, vinyl grab drops and pauses... nice feature. :-D


you can call me paradox here too if you like haha.

nah, il try shoot something tonight bro!
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By bliprock Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:38 pm
There is a lot of things that help live play. For instance get a foot switch and use it to say change banks sequences tracks or what ever. you can even make one.
I use the sequencer a lot to, and play live in multiple passes on different tracks to build it up. Then listen to it, change it, do it agin, so its like i am always live. What you hear is a compilation of live playing, be it chords or MIDI data say for a synth filter.
Case in point, i was playing with this track today. And its all saved so now i can make more variations and switch it up more or what ever i think i need to do next. I mean THis is totally live

to four track yeah. Made it all my self. no loop packs or anything, just MPC1000 JJOSXL and some synths to 4 track live. meaning its unedited. I can sit back and go with it or change it as it plays with more rolls, mutes, patterns samples ect. I need another footswitch as one is not enough.
The sequence window is good to for switching stuff, just set it up the way you want it to switch before hand of course.
:smoker: i could rock that beat all day to, just cos its one of my fave styles like.
So yeah i mean you can try and play "everything" but it if you have to layer lots makes sense to make use of the sequencer. Patterns are good to as they stay in time to tempo changes if you use them as opposed to samples that are not chopped. I chop but. as you can hear in my breakbeat there is a chopped drumbreak as well as sequenced break I wrote underneath. There is a whole load of stuff i want to do to it and it might take a while to do it to. Gotta do the whole resample thing, and write more to. maybe more sound design its a rabbit hole, but you get the picture. Live and sequenced and live again and again if you want then you can resample or pattern it.
I liked the vid to.
By innovine Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:35 am
bliprock wrote:(Patterns) are very versatile and useful. For instance you could make a whole bank of midi phrases or drum phrases that can be triggered in time, any time.


Can you provide more info on this? I tried to trigger patterns in a useful way and didn't get far.. in the pattern Next screen, I need to turn one off, and then the next one on. It'd be more useful for me to hit one pad to trigger a pattern, which would mute the old pattern.. just like how it works with samples set to mono and in the same mute group..

I also tried to assign a pattern to a pad at the bottom of the main screen, but I think it plays them both at the same time? I need to experiment more, but my recorded midi CC just sounded very weird when triggering them this way.

bliprock wrote:Also just MIDI CC data can be made into a pattern, which gets assigned to a pad, then if you hit a pad the MID CC data is sent to external gear, say for filter sweep over 4 bars. all in time as its sequence data. I do not use them enough.


This sounds very much like what I want to do.. Could you please provide more info on exactly how you are doing this? As mentioned, I would really like to be able to hit a pad and have it start sending a midi CC data, but when I hit another pad, have the first stop and the new one start.
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By bliprock Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:22 pm
you seem half way there. i usually go into grid edit mode and make pattern from there. If you want to do MIDI data then you have to be in the MIDI data window.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2 ... _midi3.htm
that explains the MIDI data window. So if for instance you want to make just a pad do MIDI data- you first have to make the MIDI data in that window and then turn it into a pattern, which then can be then assigned to a pad. :smoker:
Patterns work in bars and are more like tracks ok. So of course they do not mute each other, just like playing two tracks they both play at same time and do not mute or simult as its not a sample you are playing.

For MIDI as I said above you just write the MIDI data in that you want. Make sure you have it set to show relevant data that you want say MIDI CC 71.
If you make the track just the MIDI data you want and no notes or anything else the pattern will do what you want it to. follow me.
So yeah also as you noticed you can set patterns to write sequences into tracks as well. or trigger them by pad. you can make a shorter sequence but it registers the whole bar, and well nothing happens if nothing is in pattern.
If you really need to have the ping ponging sequences then practice hitting the pads in time or sequence it. if you have two separate patterns then go to pattern bank screen and write it in a sequence by choosing what pattern you want each bar.
I cant remember right now, but i think if you set it to reference other track, and that track is set to midi channel out then it works as well as active track with said MIDI channel you want.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2xl/padmode2.htm
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By Sooty_G Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:05 pm
innovine wrote: It'd be more useful for me to hit one pad to trigger a pattern, which would mute the old pattern.. just like how it works with samples set to mono and in the same mute group..

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I would really like to be able to hit a pad and have it start sending a midi CC data, but when I hit another pad, have the first stop and the new one start.


you can do this easily. check the manual for PAD MODE. you need to put the pattern in SOLO mode.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2xl/padmode2.htm

you can set it right from the PAD STATUS screen
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2xl/status.htm

the PAD STATUS screen is powerful. it's basically the Ableton Live clip launcher for the mpc. there is an (undocumented) limitation tho in that only 8 patterns can be playing back (looping) at once.
By brucker Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:12 pm
t_bias wrote:maybe time to rethink your live style...



i actually struggled with same problem so i went back to basics...



very nicely done!

and yeah you cant beat back to basics!

OP, dont waste time trying to fit everything into the show, strip it down to its core and start practicing cos your performance is going to determine the success or failure of a show, not whether or not your track is a carbon copy of what you did at home. :mrgreen:
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By Tag One The Fader Fiend Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:17 am
brucker wrote:OP, dont waste time trying to fit everything into the show, strip it down to its core and start practicing cos your performance is going to determine the success or failure of a show, not whether or not your track is a carbon copy of what you did at home. :mrgreen:


+1 I couldn't agree more brucker, well put :nod: