Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By le rat Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:37 pm
Talking about "turntable" I asked a long time ago to get rid of pitch shift in the input thru screen and get a TUNE function instead but it seems there was issues.

It could help when you can't use a turntable with ultra pitch or when you got not turntable at all.
By Emilie Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:24 pm
It would be great if you could input numbers via MIDI so you, on the 1000, could make your own numeric keypad as on the 2500. Get it?
By elmacaco Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:59 pm
Personally I think all this should only be happening if it is a means to getting more q-link functionality, ie have everything (filter, LFO, env, sample/loop start/end duration) in the MPC program controlled by midi CC's, and have the Q links generate them so you can layer different CC control data on single tracks. Might be hard to differentiate between single pad and whole program, as well as other active programs, but I think it is doable.

This kind of feature is useless to me and I imagine it is a bit counterproductive as it makes the MPC a periferal device rather than the 'center' it is in it's name. I love the sampler in the MPC, but if I was using it like that I think I would grab something else. Controlling the MPC from a computer seems retarded to me, but I do retarded stuff all the time too.

I'm glad other people like it, but honestly, I think adding this sort of thing isn't a problem unless it creates bugs and problems in using the MPC in a standard way.

I use the footpedals for that as well and wouldn't want to use midi instead, but I guess others might want that.

Seems like big things in any case, this couldn't have been easy for JJ to pull off, so props to him for his continued hustle.
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By tarbaby Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:27 pm
I can feel you on this,I prefer more midi out,sample manipulation & sequencer functions.
But maybe it will make someone else's perfect machine.I wish he could do something about the fx algorithms.& Maybe other fx buses besides the main outs.
Well atleast we have a way better os & great support,so I won't complain to much.
By rarara Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:46 pm
i agree with the last couple of posts - its mad to have all this CC control, but not be able to route the qlinks 'internally' (without having midi-out connected to midi-in)

to my mind JJOS is now already too heavily featured towards sample manipulation as it is, and a little more thought should be given to the sequenecer. does someone have the ear of JJ and can ask him for different track lengths and more realtime pattern control??!!
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By mp3 Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:10 pm
rarara wrote:different track lengths

That's a good idea. I think a good way to implement that would be to define a loop region for each track. It may be difficult, from an architecture standpoint, to truly implement varying track lengths.

rarara wrote:more realtime pattern control??!!


What do you mean by that?

Anyway, how about some of the RM1X features? Particularly their offline MIDI editing processes (Yamaha calls them jobs):
- altering gate time - make notes shorter or longer (either by percentage or by absolute value)
- velocity crescendo or decrescendo (useful for programming manual echos or buildups)
- time compression or expansion (imagine being able to take a bar of MIDI notes and stretch it out to 3 bars)

Or how about transpose or lock to scale or MIDI harmonizer? Those could be 'jobbed' like above.

Good thing about the offline strategy is that there's no additional strain on the CPU since they'd be offline processes.

I'd also like to see a beefed up arpeggiator. Maybe the ability to use a standard MIDI file (or the MIDI notes from another track) as a phrase arpeggio. At the very least I'd like to see swing. And being able to strum chords in both directions (as opposed to just up) would be helpful too.

And last, I'd like to see XoX style step sequencer input. Where each of the 16 pads corresponds to a 16th note on the current bar.
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By wudsiba Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:41 pm
"And last, I'd like to see XoX style step sequencer input. Where each of the 16 pads corresponds to a 16th note on the current bar."

This is already in there. Look into the Loop Edit Mode. Bad ass feature right there.
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By mp3 Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:55 pm
wudsiba wrote:"And last, I'd like to see XoX style step sequencer input. Where each of the 16 pads corresponds to a 16th note on the current bar."

This is already in there. Look into the Loop Edit Mode. Bad ass feature right there.

Damn I'm tripping...
By Emilie Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:50 pm
wudsiba wrote:"And last, I'd like to see XoX style step sequencer input. Where each of the 16 pads corresponds to a 16th note on the current bar."

This is already in there. Look into the Loop Edit Mode. Bad ass feature right there.


would be sweet if it was MIDI controlable, so you could use 16 notes on your keyboard to turn on/off steps.
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By B.A. Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:43 pm
One thing I've always wanted to see added was a "pattern chain" mode, it would look similar to grid edit. It could look something like this (looks a little crazy but you get the point)...

Pattern 1 []----------[]
Pattern 2 []
Pattern 3 --[][]--------[][]
Pattern 4 --[][]--------[][]
Pattern 5 ------[][]
Pattern 6 ----------[][]
Pattern 7 ----------[][]

When you'd go into "pattern chain" mode you'd be able to edit the order of how the sequences would play in real-time (similar to how you add/remove notes in grid edit) and if you wanted to you could also have more than two sequences playing at the same time, not sure if that's possible though (playing more than two sequences at the same time might make our MPC's explode :lol: ). There could also be a marker kinda like the one in trim mode that would follow the progress of the song and let you see where you're at. Of course you'd be able to rename "pattern" to read "drums", "hook" or whatever.

It would be really easy to put a song together this way and see what's going on, it would be similar to the FL studio's pattern chain mode for those of you familiar with FL. I used FL for about a year some ten years ago and this is something that I still remember and miss. I also had a Roland MV-8800 for about a month a few months back and it had a very similar way of putting songs together and if I remember correctly it also had a song mode similar to the one we already have on the mpc (you could do both). What do you guys think, do you think it would be useful?
By Sovereign Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:34 pm
Just seems that JJ needs to focus on optimizing the code more than anything else.
The 1k and 2500 both get sluggish pretty quick when trying to make use of many of the functions he has added.
The screen changes and button response time get really slow.

That and the polyphony is what ruined the JJ OS for me, which in turn killed all desire to use the 1k/2500 since they have to have JJ to be of value.
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By B.A. Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:15 pm
Sovereign wrote:Just seems that JJ needs to focus on optimizing the code more than anything else.
The 1k and 2500 both get sluggish pretty quick when trying to make use of many of the functions he has added.
The screen changes and button response time get really slow.

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