4.80 is here ...

the main point about the real time pitch shift (we're speaking about the one in mode pad 8 (mixer/input)) is that it's can't be used while a sequence is playing...it would have been great if it could be used while a sequence is playing...(create an external jack link between alternative out and record in and reroute thru main out...)

actually i consideer this function as a toy feature (compared to all the ones that JJ proposed in the begining).
i personally don't use the mpc has a dedicated effect machine, i use it as a sampler/sequencer...

but i think those discussions are only repetitions, repetitions, repetitions...
it would be better to send your comments directly to JJ...
but those says ar not anymore useful on this board i think...

thedvs01 wrote:What if you have a cassette tape or CD walkman on input-thru and need to pitch it? Or have a synth plugged in and you have a bass part already sampled into the MPC, but the bass sample is just slightly out of tune with the synth? instead of adjusting the sample and messing up your sequence you can just pitch the synth input

Isnt the Pitch Shift that we're talking about for live pitch shift? Cause I think the senarios that you just explained all involve instances when you could apply Pitch Shift after the sample is recorded. Not tryin' to be funny or sarcastic, but I dont think anyone doin' a live show with an MP would be usin' outdated gear like a regular CD player or a cassette player (although I love tape players).

well there is no point in sending comments to JJ if we cant agree on something to be ejected from the OS he's not gonna do anything. They already sent me an email expressing that.
We are officially @ a Stalemate. Oh well, we need bug fixes anyway. But if anyone wants to give something up to get that new Seq function thing. Holla, I'm tryin' to see that happen.

hereo wrote:

stale bread wrote: I honestly would look to see what else could be dropped instead of something major like that,...

Me too. That feature is truly needed. If we can all just agree on something that needs to go we can get it.

Voice Monitor can go too... we all know that, if you use too many voices it's audable by being inaudible.. so there's no need for a voice monitor at all (unless you're a geek: "wow dude, look at my voice monitor, dude - I'm using 31 voice now - how sick is that?!" "Yeah man, but your beat sucks and you do too matter of fact" >> just an imaginated dialogue)

stan steez wrote:

hereo wrote:

stale bread wrote: I honestly would look to see what else could be dropped instead of something major like that,...

Me too. That feature is truly needed. If we can all just agree on something that needs to go we can get it.

Voice Monitor can go too... we all know that, if you use too many voices it's audable by being inaudible.. so there's no need for a voice monitor at all (unless you're a geek: "wow dude, look at my voice monitor, dude - I'm using 31 voice now - how sick is that?!" "Yeah man, but your beat sucks and you do too matter of fact" >> just an imaginated dialogue)

I dont usse it so I'm down I guess.

There is one dead horse being beaten way too often around here and that is NEW features.

Frankly the JJ os is beyond my expectations. It's got way more functionality in it than I even care to use.

He added all the real great needed stuff already. Everything else would be better suited to your DAW or an editing program.

I honestly want nothing more than a stable bug free OS. Bug free on features, Midi, everything. I want everything that is there to work flawless. I don't really care about the re-arranging that he's been doing last few OS's. All it does is create a slew of annoying bugs, especially when there was nothing wrong with the arrangement of trim features last few OS's.

JJ is creating a few more problems and hassle for no reason, lately. I think he should just buckle down, make this OS bug free and great and leave it at that.

I'm not mad if the 2500 has more JJ features. After all, it's at least a grand more than a 1k and has more space. Not only that, I EXPECT it to get more features. If I was a 2500 user I'd be really pissed off actually if after spending/wasting all that extra money for the machine, and not really getting anything great and/or extra for it.

The "wanted" features for the 1k are never going to end, so why don't we just agree to collectively try and influence JJ to just give us something bug free and finished, and we can quit being guinea pigs, and go on with our beatmaking lives being unhampered by bugs and having to wait for new OS's.

You're right, but it is soo tempting for us all to ask for new features cause JJ keeps giving them to us. even when he told us he couldnt anymore, he still did. Though I may not want bug free a OS more than anything, I know I need a bug free OS more than anything. I wont be mad if the feature dont get added, but I know some people on here see it as really helpful. But before the JJ OS was created, people had to be creative to get around their problems. It might be time to get back to that mindstate.

No, don't take away the old program mode! I use it alot, and I'm more comfortable working in it, than I am working in global mode (I use Global too though). Besides it's such a basic thing which has been in the mpc1000 since the first OS - It will definetly cause alot of confusion for newcommers if it where removed.

Balls wrote:No, don't take away the old program mode! I use it alot, and I'm more comfortable working in it, than I am working in global mode (I use Global too though). Besides it's such a basic thing which has been in the mpc1000 since the first OS - It will definetly cause alot of confusion for newcommers if it where removed.

true but global mode makes workflow a million times faster. maybe move global mode to pad 7 so people wont get confused. So in the future pads 11 and 4 are still open for further development.

ditch the pitch. ditch the pitch. ditch the pitch.

I really don't believe anyone at all needs it or actually uses it. IMO the people who voted it for in the poll we had were just the dullards who didn't actually understand that it was only about shifting the external input.

JJ maybe be clever dudes but replacing the very useful real time input filter with an input pitch shifter that doesn't even work when a sequence is playing was just them saying "look how clever we are" but was in fact JUST PLAIN OLd DUMB ASS STUPID as it actually REDUCED the functionality of the machine from Akai's original OS

get real and GET RID OF IT JJ, it snot worthy of you, or us, and it makes you look like like a bunch goddam amatuers

okay that's my final winge on the subject of PITCH SCHITT I promise

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stan steez wrote:

hereo wrote:

stale bread wrote: I honestly would look to see what else could be dropped instead of something major like that,...

Me too. That feature is truly needed. If we can all just agree on something that needs to go we can get it.

Voice Monitor can go too... we all know that, if you use too many voices it's audable by being inaudible.. so there's no need for a voice monitor at all (unless you're a geek: "wow dude, look at my voice monitor, dude - I'm using 31 voice now - how sick is that?!" "Yeah man, but your beat sucks and you do too matter of fact" >> just an imaginated dialogue)

i perssonnaly do use this function a lot . i use my mpc has a sampler triggered by my computer and it made me realize i needed this function on my access virus...
it allowes me to see if i'm near the limit of the machine or not, so i can think and use the tools before getting frustrated by the limitations and the need to find another way to realize my idea...

I really like the voice count. Can't take up that much room right??

Sucks to the pitchshift btw.

hereo wrote:

thedvs01 wrote:What if you have a cassette tape or CD walkman on input-thru and need to pitch it? Or have a synth plugged in and you have a bass part already sampled into the MPC, but the bass sample is just slightly out of tune with the synth? instead of adjusting the sample and messing up your sequence you can just pitch the synth input

Isnt the Pitch Shift that we're talking about for live pitch shift? Cause I think the senarios that you just explained all involve instances when you could apply Pitch Shift after the sample is recorded. Not tryin' to be funny or sarcastic, but I dont think anyone doin' a live show with an MP would be usin' outdated gear like a regular CD player or a cassette player (although I love tape players).

Yeah I was talking about the live pitch shift -- the implementation of it in the input thru screen

I meant in the rare case that someone would be using a backing track already recorded on to cassette or CD and then playing the MPC samples live over the top of that.

I don't do this, nor do I know of anyone who does this regularly, but all I was saying is that the real time pitch shift is probably useful to at least somebody

There's gotta be some kind of way to keep the features we've got and still add new ones. Or not

I really do wish there was a way to load the OS from the CF card into the RAM instead of using the flash rom.

maybe this has been brought up before, but what about the flash rom space that's used to store samples? can't that be used for more OS space, or no? i don't know about everyone else, but my flash rom still has the demo samples on it, i just turned off autoload and have never used the flash rom.

I would love to have the New Seq feature,
it would make the MPC the ultimate Live PA machine!!

if this sacrifices pitch shift and the voice feature, so be it.

improving the live functions of this instrument would be awesome!!

please please please