By littlerob
Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:24 pm
shit, this os is mad. this might mean i wont need to buy a synth after all. so i just need some basic waveform samples, load them in, and then i hav full adsr controls on each waveform, and an arpegiator that can be fully programmed myself. is that correct? ive noticed with the current build of os2 that is publically available that its so different to the old os. is there any good tutorials or guides to get me started? it definitely seems less user friendly. not a bad thing, it just means more to learn really. im gaining more and more knowledge on subtractor synthesis through building my own sounds in ableton and reaktor. so im sure i can figure it out.

By mikolo
Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:08 am
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os2/
new pictures of pad pattern!
Im also hoping we might be able to make use of that duration field as a workaround for a "hold" stage in the ADSR on individual hits.
new pictures of pad pattern!
Im also hoping we might be able to make use of that duration field as a workaround for a "hold" stage in the ADSR on individual hits.
By dtaa pla muk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:31 pm
!!! cool vids
looks like someone's stepping it up w/ videos
haha does jj want to start a YOUTUBE BATTLE?!?!
looks like someone's stepping it up w/ videos
haha does jj want to start a YOUTUBE BATTLE?!?!
By dtaa pla muk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:37 pm
i just got os 0.840 in email, so i'll be checking out these features here over the course of the next few hours. i will be explaining the functions that are demonstrated in the VIDEO and answering questions about PAD PATTERN.

By distortedtekno
Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:37 pm
Nym wrote:i just got os 0.840 in email, so i'll be checking out these features here over the course of the next few hours. i will be explaining the functions that are demonstrated in the VIDEO and answering questions about PAD PATTERN.
you mean 0.90, right?
anyway, i like this new feature alot. can't wait to try it out when it's released.
By dtaa pla muk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:41 pm
nah, .90 isn't done yet, the version i've been given is titled .840 (the extra 0 just to distinguish)
it's pretty cool. i'm not good with it yet but give me a couple hours...
it's pretty cool. i'm not good with it yet but give me a couple hours...

By mikolo
Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:38 pm
Hey Nym, im interested in how this thing works!
It looks from the video more like a step sequencer than an arpeggiator. Does it work in real time? Say if you have a pattern with 4 hits in it ,does it trigger 4 hits every time you hit the pad? definitely take your time with it though...JJ teased us way too early with one,im used to waiting now!
Im hoping my new pads arrive in time for me try this out when 0.9 drops.
It looks from the video more like a step sequencer than an arpeggiator. Does it work in real time? Say if you have a pattern with 4 hits in it ,does it trigger 4 hits every time you hit the pad? definitely take your time with it though...JJ teased us way too early with one,im used to waiting now!
Im hoping my new pads arrive in time for me try this out when 0.9 drops.
By dtaa pla muk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:05 pm
folks, what we have here is a SERIOUS, well implemented addition.
it is a step sequencer/arpeggiator. you can create single pad rhythms w/ your drum pads, complete with velocity switching and shift timing, or arpeggiated melodies via INST pgms. you can either control tune via TUNE (16-levels style) or PAD (by selecting which INST pad [read: note] plays)
it makes 6 pad grid edit useful again. til now, i just used midi grid edit for everything. now, i will have to incorporate 6 pad grid edit.
the most interesting part - and the part i don't yet fully understand - is how tightly integrated it is with the sequencer. if you set a pad pattern on a pad and then HIT that pad while recording, it's not just that pad that is recorded - it's the whole pattern. that means that every event in your pad pattern/arpeggiator/step sequencer is recorded into the sequencer and can be edited separately, without changing the original pattern.
PATTERN files are recorded separately. you have the ability to save 99 patterns, so we'll be able to create and share VAST banks of patterns. i may be mistaken, but it appear that pattern banks are per project, not per PROGRAM. ie you have 99 to share across all pgms.
this is a no nonsense, powerful function that i must admit leaves me floundering in the possibilities. i'll continue to look at it as i have time this evening (dem primaries tomorrow, and i gotta drive home so i can vote for mr obama early tomorrow morning)
i am very impressed, and a little bit scared by the possibilities here. i have a couple qualms, but i think they are due to my inexperience with PAD PATTERN.
but to give a very brief comparision:
1st we only had step edit
then we had grid edit
then we had 6 pad grid edit
then AUDIO tracks
then we had MIDI grid edit
now we have a step sequencer.
hell, what other types of logical sequencing are there...truly inspirational work here.
it is a step sequencer/arpeggiator. you can create single pad rhythms w/ your drum pads, complete with velocity switching and shift timing, or arpeggiated melodies via INST pgms. you can either control tune via TUNE (16-levels style) or PAD (by selecting which INST pad [read: note] plays)
it makes 6 pad grid edit useful again. til now, i just used midi grid edit for everything. now, i will have to incorporate 6 pad grid edit.
the most interesting part - and the part i don't yet fully understand - is how tightly integrated it is with the sequencer. if you set a pad pattern on a pad and then HIT that pad while recording, it's not just that pad that is recorded - it's the whole pattern. that means that every event in your pad pattern/arpeggiator/step sequencer is recorded into the sequencer and can be edited separately, without changing the original pattern.
PATTERN files are recorded separately. you have the ability to save 99 patterns, so we'll be able to create and share VAST banks of patterns. i may be mistaken, but it appear that pattern banks are per project, not per PROGRAM. ie you have 99 to share across all pgms.
this is a no nonsense, powerful function that i must admit leaves me floundering in the possibilities. i'll continue to look at it as i have time this evening (dem primaries tomorrow, and i gotta drive home so i can vote for mr obama early tomorrow morning)
i am very impressed, and a little bit scared by the possibilities here. i have a couple qualms, but i think they are due to my inexperience with PAD PATTERN.
but to give a very brief comparision:
1st we only had step edit
then we had grid edit
then we had 6 pad grid edit
then AUDIO tracks
then we had MIDI grid edit
now we have a step sequencer.
hell, what other types of logical sequencing are there...truly inspirational work here.
By dtaa pla muk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:18 pm
It looks from the video more like a step sequencer than an arpeggiator. Does it work in real time?
we're entering very difficult to discuss realms here, i think english might fail me for what i'm trying to say.
it works in "MPC realtime" in which you STRIKE the pattern, and it begins playing. it will begin playing whenever and wherever you strike it.
what it WONT do is play again until the first pattern stops. ie, the patterns are a different type of MONOPHONIC, that is they do not overlap and they have a sense of DURATION attributed to them. i am not sure what's unfinished and what's specification, but largely this is an issue of step sequencing typically starting/stopping on predictable places: 1.01.00, 2.01.00, etc
however, one can use PAD PATTERN also to create snare rolls out of a single hit. this, due to what i described above, is a LITTLE more clumsy, as it won't repeat until the pattern plays out.
Say if you have a pattern with 4 hits in it ,does it trigger 4 hits every time you hit the pad?
yes. unless you specify otherwise, it'll do that. i'm still very very clumsy setting it up and i may be doing some things wrong, but i'll learn it soon enough
definitely take your time with it though...JJ teased us way too early with one,im used to waiting now!
this feature i think snowballled from something somewhat simple to a very large addition. after all, we've essentially gotten a new form of sequencing out of this, one that produces a very different stylistic direction if you look at other machines. i can feel it while i'm working, already, although i am not good at it yet.
remember how we were talking about midi outputting? i am 99% sure it does this, because i assigned it to a inst pgm w/ midi out. i didn't have reason to test it out, but i see no reason why the PAD setting (which allows you to specify which PAD plays in the arpeggiation, rather than TUNE of 1 pad) wouldn't trigger midi output as well. this is very important.

By CommanderRobot
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:20 pm
Nym wrote:i am very impressed, and a little bit scared by the possibilities here.
i still feel the same about step edit. looks like i really need to catch up!

By mkl...
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:41 pm
i personnaly think that the only reason to use step edit is to automate some parameters we don't have in grid edit (effects, program change etc...)
i think i will love this new pattern thing.
nym can you explain more preciselly what happen in the video?
what are the litlle numbers in the grid?pad assignement?
do you still work on the midi cc requests to send a compressed request to JJ?have you done it yet?
i think i will love this new pattern thing.
nym can you explain more preciselly what happen in the video?
what are the litlle numbers in the grid?pad assignement?
do you still work on the midi cc requests to send a compressed request to JJ?have you done it yet?

By formantuk
Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:43 pm
nym doe's output to midi - please say yes .....
- oops posted to soon looks like it does ... can you test it more and let us know for sure?



