there's gonna be a lot of quoting, and this response is going to probably only be read by you and me, so if you want, we can most definitely continue this discussion via email or pm (my cell is busted)
since there are going to be two os, then in my opinion at least one of them should be based solely on the original strengths of the machines design.
and which would be the inspiration from that? the 3000? 2000xl? or is it the 4000? because all the new features implemented into os2 are also found in the 4000. both os1 and 2 are based solely on the original strength of the machines' design. and who is the authority on that, anyway? akai, or jj? i say the latter.
I don't remember who it was but someone posted earlier in this thread that they wish jj would give the mpc more features like the roland mv or other groove boxes, maybe even ableton live and I couldn't agree more.
not to be rude but i think you've contradicted yourself. you said first that you want the mpc code to focus on the original strengths of the mpc design, but then you want more features from fundamentally different designs? do you see the flaw here?
Imho the mpc is about sampling, chopping, and sequencing first and foremost
adsr and all functions so far mentioned in os2 IS about sampling, chopping and sequencing. adsr is fundamental to all three. ask any mpc4000 user. ask any other user of anything besides mpc1000s, 2000xls, 2500s...ADSR has been SORELY lacking from all of these models since day one. ADSR is VITAL to chopping/sampling/sequencing. not to mention, os1 handles sampling, chopping, and sequencing better than the 2000, 2000xl, and 3000, and arguably the 4000. os1 HAS stayed true to the mandate you speak of, and os2 stays even truer to it. you claim features of os2 are non-samplecentric, but i'm sorry--this is an incorrect statement. these are not synth-features. these are SAMPLE features.
os1 and os2 will not have 2 separate cultures, they will have 2 separate classes. os2 is going to be a more function-laden os. there will be more to do, be it edit samples, chop samples, sequence samples, or create completely new sounds from samples.
most of the people here hardly ever know what you're talking about, your methods, tricks, and work arounds give us alot to chew on and learn and thats great but you have to understand there is another culture of user as well, if the new os is going to be the best os for users like you, then the least jj could do is make os 1 the best for the other type of user.
i think you give me too much credit. any technique i write here is very easily done at home. anyone who gives them a shot can attest - there's nothing hard about it, it's just doing it! os2 is going to be better for a user like me, but then again os2 is going to be better for nearly every/any type of user who isn't 100% dead set in their ways.
the looping needs to be looked into seriously
we need multiple loop points and good settings for our live shows
the triggering needs to be looked at
we need easy single cycle loops to be possible
we need muting advancements or corrections, this is incredibly important for live playing as well as studio production
we need the sequencing and songmode to be worked out
i wish we had exploding seq tracks (jj said we can't in os 1)
a lot of these requests are very vague and lack the type of vision that is necessary for implementation. frankly, though, if you're having so much trouble with the mpc1000, is there ANY other mpc that will work as you want? it really sounds like you're dying for a dream machine.
really, you have a poor conception of what os2 is featuring. maybe you also don't understand what's been removed, so you're worried about that due to all the chicken little sht going on in here.
fact is, you have os1, which is a more functional, fully realized os. fk, man, it pushed itself to the walls of its functional capability. it grew til there was no more room to grow. if you're upset with your home, move to a bigger one. os2 can be that bigger home.
