Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
By dtaa pla muk Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:57 am
this is sooooooo sick....the arp function is an incredible thing, esp the fact that the timing is represented in in the seq.........i love it. gonna make things sooo good

i could never be happier that i was lucky enough to have a jjos
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By esem Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:31 pm
fantastic i wait :D
By lojong Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:25 pm
:shock:

The best Christmas gift!! Can't wait!
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By legs mechanical Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:33 am
Nym wrote:^ explain

it looks like he's selecting the arpeggiator patterns from a list, right? and then adjusting the gate and timing of them. but are those arp patterns going to be preset or programmable? hopefully each arp would have options like octave-stepping, and note-order (up/down, random, inclusive and exclusive stuff... as-played wouldn't be an option though i suppose seeing as they're triggered from one pad.)
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By legs mechanical Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:37 am
looking again, it seems like the "arp" field is just quant strength.. why would it say arp? i like the chord idea, but i hope the arpeggiator is less rigid than it seems from this vid or done away with. but i'm just some dude...
By master-ceo Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:54 am
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! The ARP baby!
By nanoloop Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:00 am
its the arp rate, the same as adjusting the TC when using note repeat.
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By thedvs01 Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:20 am
legs mechanical wrote:looking again, it seems like the "arp" field is just quant strength.. why would it say arp? i like the chord idea, but i hope the arpeggiator is less rigid than it seems from this vid or done away with. but i'm just some dude...


it says arp because it's determining how 'arpeggiated' the chord is

you'll notice the lower the value to less time in between the notes of the chord

the main point is to add realism, to make it sound as if someone were striking the individual keys on keyboard rather than hitting each note at the EXACT same time

arpeggio isn't just a synthesizer term. an arpeggio means playing the individual notes in a chord one by one

you saw him selecting the chord from the other screen field.

don't think of it as an arpeggiator. think of it more as a 'humanizing' value to a chord that would sound very robotic by default. ideally you would want the value set very low, but not quite at 0 so that the chord sounds cohesive but the individual notes are very subtly staggered

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my hope is that there will be custom chord programming. seventh chords, inversion, etc. not just a list of major and minor chords which is what I saw in the video

really I just want to be able to assign whatever notes I want to a pad

the chord learning feature of the Korg M3 would be nice as well, it allows you to select a pad, play a chord on a keyboard, and then assign the notes you played to that pad

the video showed all major triads (the upper case M next to the chord values being changed) I'm assuming that M field will be able to be changed to minor as well. Hopefully diminished and augmented chords will be included too, but really with a quick lesson in theory you can be making whatever chord you want in less than 10 minutes of reading and practice. it's simply a matter of counting half-steps

so custom chords, inversions, and the like will be the main thing I will be looking for. I know that I've wanted chord pads in the past, but what the video shows seems like more of a gimmick than a truly useful tool, so I am hoping that the features of these chord pads will be a bit more robust

for this to be truly useful then I would like it to be able to be programmed to play chords that may actually be difficult to play by hand. not just simple major and minor triads

I suppose the limited functionality of what was shown in the video is at least useful for those without midi keyboards but building chords is the easy part, it's actually playing them that can sometimes be difficult so I'm not completely sold yet on this feature.
By dtaa pla muk Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:44 am
my hope is that there will be custom chord programming. seventh chords, inversion, etc. not just a list of major and minor chords which is what I saw in the video

really I just want to be able to assign whatever notes I want to a pad


"CHORD can replace a SIMULT"

that would imply that any notes could be joined.
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By thedvs01 Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:44 am
Nym wrote:Image


didn't see that before

that looks a bit more promising
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By legs mechanical Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:17 pm
So the idea of having a weak little "strum" arpeggiator in the mpc is wack. Totally. No arguing about this. I win. BUT:

Remember how a bunch of folks have been asking for a delay time before the attack portion of the envelope starts for some really great off-time snaps, claps, clacks, and clicks etc. when layered? Well this is it (and a little bit more). And that is really awesome. JJ's conceptual implementation is amazing. Just don' t let me find any of you using the arp for musical chords.


edit: at least i hope this is the case... knowing that chord is a seperate track type makes me just a little bit uneasy about that...