MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

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MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By le rat Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:29 am
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Bug Fixes: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011
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1. [EFFECT WINDOW]

The window of FULL LEVEL does not close.

2. [TRACK MUTE]

SEQUENCE+/- of footswitch does not work.

3. [PROGRAM]

[LFO]
[RATE]
Only the value of A01 can be adjusted with Q1 slider at the time of SHIFT+F6 (ALL).

<<Addition>>
[TRIM]
[LOOP ON]
[X-FADE]
It is a button addition to F5.
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If F5 (X to) button is pressed, a cross fade loop will be converted to a forward loop.
As for the sample of a cross fade loop, two voices are used. (As for a stereo sample, four voices are used)
A voice can be reduced to one by converting to a forward loop. (The stereo sample can reduce a voice to two)

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:30 pm
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If F5 (X to) button is pressed, a cross fade loop will be converted to a forward loop.
As for the sample of a cross fade loop, two voices are used. (As for a stereo sample, four voices are used)
A voice can be reduced to one by converting to a forward loop. (The stereo sample can reduce a voice to two)
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OMG he read my mind.

I spent a lot of yesterday creating an instrument program and was struggling with getting loop points that didn't click from the chorused stereo waveforms I have. So I used X-fade. Problem was that each key press used up 4 polyphony oO lol.
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Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By wudsiba Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:04 pm
Havent installed this yet, but does that make F5 a toggle as well? Like on the regular version 2, it should run through all of the loop options from forward, reverse, alt, xfade 4, and xfade 2. That's one of the little things I miss about version 2. Nit picking of course. All praise to JJ. Amen.

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:21 pm
wudsiba wrote:Havent installed this yet, but does that make F5 a toggle as well? Like on the regular version 2, it should run through all of the loop options from forward, reverse, alt, xfade 4, and xfade 2. That's one of the little things I miss about version 2. Nit picking of course. All praise to JJ. Amen.


Nope, no toggle.
X-FADE to forward loop is the dog nads for click-free loops though, halving the polyphony needed without having to resample the usual MAIN OUT way :)

I just can't believe that the first time this year I decide to make use of x-fade I come up against polyphony problems, then the next day JJ releases this solution! Haha.. the planets must be in alignment.

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By dtaa pla muk Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:52 pm
wait, i don't get it.
is this a new type of xfade loop?
was the old xfade loop reverse loop and this new one is xfade forward loop? (don't think so)
will download this after work but could someone please clarify for my small brain
as yall know anything xfade is right up my alley but i'm not understanding this.
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Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By Coz Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:04 pm
I still wish he'd enable your currently loaded project to be the default location when saving.

If you've been navigating through a bunch of nested folders on your hard drive for samples, then hit save at the end of your session, it takes you back to that nested samples folder. You then have to hit load and navigate back to your project folder (sometimes 20 button presses!) and then press save again... Why??! :?

It's also too easy to mess up and accidentally hit 'do it' (in load) instead of switching to save... I know because I did it last night and lost several hours work!!! :evil:

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:33 pm
Nym wrote:wait, i don't get it.
is this a new type of xfade loop?
was the old xfade loop reverse loop and this new one is xfade forward loop? (don't think so)
will download this after work but could someone please clarify for my small brain
as yall know anything xfade is right up my alley but i'm not understanding this.


Nahh.
It renders your X-fade into a sample and then makes the looped portion a forward loop. No click city! :)

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By dtaa pla muk Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:36 pm
interesting. it's like a "commit" for xfade.
i wonder how this works, because i thought the click happened due to sample non-accuracy?
also, i wonder whether the click returns if you detune the loop.
all this and more - things to try after work

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:48 pm
Nym wrote:interesting. it's like a "commit" for xfade.
i wonder how this works, because i thought the click happened due to sample non-accuracy?
also, i wonder whether the click returns if you detune the loop.
all this and more - things to try after work


Interesting to find out. Sounds like maybe the X-fade 'commit' ensures to make both the start and end points (of the left AND right hand of a stereo waveform too) either cross zero or move the waveforms either side relatively to one another so they flow smooth. If that's the case then couldn't JJ also make the FWD and Bounce loops also use this same 'zero-cross' calculation by way of some kind of 'commit'?
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Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By hiphoppa Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:57 pm
Nym wrote:interesting. it's like a "commit" for xfade.
i wonder how this works, because i thought the click happened due to sample non-accuracy?
also, i wonder whether the click returns if you detune the loop.
all this and more - things to try after work



NYM is most definitely back in the building! Great to see homey.
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Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By patchen Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:03 pm
Yeah, and the cool thing I'm noticing is that this does not seem to be a simple crossfade but a pseudo 'intelligent' crossfade similer to the tails function of Recycle for example. It seems to pick the best place to put the loop and x-fade by using the loop markers as a 'guidline' instead of putting the loop exactly there. Seems to work very, very, well in many cases.
When looping tails you can put the Loop 'start' marker much farther forward than would otherwise be the case and it will just sound good! Ditto for loop end marker!

Only thing I'd like to see in addition would be a x-fade bi-directional loop witch could help some shorter samples from sounding to 'loopy' when looping the tail.

So it would be forward<FADE>backward<FADE>forward. Best of both worlds between bi-directional and x-fade loops.
Just dreaming out loud...

Kinda nerdy but hey, I'm a sound designer what can I say.

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:03 pm
One thing I'd really, really like is to be able to use the loop as only the sustain portion of your amp env, then when you release the pad the sample doesn't loop anymore but plays to the end.
That would be totally uber scuber indeed!

Copy, paste would be nice in TRIM too. I never understood why copy/paste isn't in trim.
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Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By patchen Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:11 pm
jimmie wrote:One thing I'd really, really like is to be able to use the loop as the sustain portion of your amp env, then when you release the pad the sample doesn't loop anymore but plays to the end.
That would be totally uber scuber indeed!


That would be cool for high quality multi-sampled instruments. But features like this start making me want other cool 'proper sampler' features like multiple velocity layers on INST programs and 128 notes of polyphony!!!

[retracted statement cause I'm an idiot]

Re: MPC1000 OS2XL Ver2.10 10-FEB-2011

By jimmie Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:18 pm
patchen wrote:That would be cool for high quality multi-sampled instruments. But features like this start making me want other cool 'proper sampler' features like multiple velocity layers on INST programs and 128 notes of polyphony!!!


Yeah, but I'm not bothered about high quality multi-sampled instruments. I'm bothered about using natural tails and being able to loop the sustain portion.
Last edited by jimmie on Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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