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By Bodymachine Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:35 am
I try to record my beat in song-mode but it doesn't works.

I try two ways:

1.
I go to song mode - press rec and then play.
it begins corectly with the sequence which first at the song... but don't switch to the next. it just repeated the first sequence .

2.
i convert the song to a unused sequence.
but it sounds crap cause all samples plays ... one sequence repeated endless.
why???

anyone mind how can i record my beats in the mpc?
i have no chance to record it into my pc cause i have no audio-interface and except that , without an audiointerface ...just connected through a audio-cable it sounds sh*** ... it loose too much sound quality.

i would really appreciate a tip...

btw: this all doesn't work viewtopic.php?f=25&t=104106&start=15
By jimmie Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:09 am
Every track for each sequence in your song must follow the same structure as the first sequence used in your song.

So:

Seq1
track 1 --> bd
track 2 --> [pgm off]
track 3 --> hats
track 4 --> synth1
track 5 --> [pgm off]
track 6 --> fx1
track 7 --> [pgm off]

Seq2
track 1 --> bd
track 2 --> snare
track 3 --> hats
track 4 --> synth1
track 5 --> synth2
track 6 --> [pgm off]
track 7 --> fx2

Seq3
track 1 --> bd
track 2 --> snare
track 3 --> hats
track 4 --> synth1
track 5 --> synth2
track 6 --> fx1
track 7 --> fx2


Make sure use use the same programs for the same track numbers across successive sequences.
By biggamehit Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:26 am
You don't record beats into the MPC. You compose and organize your sequence and them record with an external media.

I'm pretty sure you have a line-in on your computer or mic jack. you can record through there until you get a dedicated audio interface.
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:00 pm
biggamehit wrote:You don't record beats into the MPC. You compose and organize your sequence and them record with an external media.


actually, you can.

you can re-sample the main outs, which saves the whole song as a WAV, which you can then transfer to the computer via USB or CF card.
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:01 pm
Bodymachine, did you actually arrange the sequences into a song?

you need to create a song containing all the sequences you want, in the order you want. it sounds like you haven't done that
By jimmie Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:05 pm
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:
biggamehit wrote:You don't record beats into the MPC. You compose and organize your sequence and them record with an external media.


actually, you can.

you can re-sample the main outs, which saves the whole song as a WAV, which you can then transfer to the computer via USB or CF card.


Just press F3 on the Song page to convert the Song to a sample.

Besides, this is all off-point. He's obv fallen into the trap of everything sounding messed-up when you convert your song to a seq without doing what I said in my first post.

Also, regarding OP's point 1. - No, you can't live-record Song data that way.

p.s. OP, which JJOS version?!
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By emceewhiterabbit Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:54 pm
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:
jimmie wrote:Just press F3 on the Song page to convert the Song to a sample.


I'm a lowly OS1 user so forgot about that rather nice feature!


i was doing this on the jjos 3.08 (free version). how can you not do it with OS1?
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:22 pm
emceewhiterabbit wrote:
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:
jimmie wrote:Just press F3 on the Song page to convert the Song to a sample.


I'm a lowly OS1 user so forgot about that rather nice feature!


i was doing this on the jjos 3.08 (free version). how can you not do it with OS1?


is it there? damn, I'll have to check that when i get home ... I've never used it and as I've been away from home since friday I checked the comparison chart which said it was OS2 and OS2XL only :oops:
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By emceewhiterabbit Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:32 pm
lol, i thought i was going mental for a second :P
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By Bodymachine Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:16 am
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:Bodymachine, did you actually arrange the sequences into a song?

you need to create a song containing all the sequences you want, in the order you want. it sounds like you haven't done that


yes is did!
Bodymachine wrote:I try two ways:

1.
I go to song mode - press rec and then play.
it begins correctly with the sequence which first at the song... but don't switch to the next. it just repeated the first sequence .


jimmie wrote:Just press F3 on the Song page to convert the Song to a sample.

Besides, this is all off-point. He's obv fallen into the trap of everything sounding messed-up when you convert your song to a seq without doing what I said in my first post.

Also, regarding OP's point 1. - No, you can't live-record Song data that way.

p.s. OP, which JJOS version?!


thank you jimmie for the tip.
i search for this option but don't find.
looking to the comparison charts at jjos website and there shows that this option isn't at the free jjos version.

but for sure, i try to press f3 - maybe it works.

in fact of your first poost:

it's all set how you describe.
my way to create a beat is to create one loop which is the peak of my song... and then copy it to other sequences to un-/muted the tracks for built a story.

so all instruments/samples are on the same place.

just one thing is different:

at the first sequence is another beat (with the same samples...) .
is it important to delete this sequence , copy the "first sequence of the song " to it to begin in the song with the first sequence ...???
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By dunego Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:56 am
Bodymachine wrote:at the first sequence is another beat (with the same samples...) .
is it important to delete this sequence , copy the "first sequence of the song " to it to begin in the song with the first sequence ...???


NO. You can start your song with any sequence, don't need to be chronological.

Bodymachine wrote:2.
i convert the song to a unused sequence.
but it sounds **** cause all samples plays ... one sequence repeated endless.
why???


Because the tracks after the first sequence are just muted, but the conversion will follow the track info of the first sequence, so if they're not muted in the first one, they will be not muted in the following ones. Try to erase all the events in the tracks that are muted on the original sequence, so they won't have nothing to play when you convert your song to a sequence.
Last edited by dunego on Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:12 am, edited 2 times in total.
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By Bodymachine Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:11 am
thanks for explain denago.

so if i right understand i delete the muted tracks at the current sequence cause the convertation doesn't know the different between muted and unmuted tracks?

is it right?
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By dunego Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:21 am
Bodymachine wrote:thanks for explain denago.

so if i right understand i delete the muted tracks at the current sequence cause the convertation doesn't know the different between muted and unmuted tracks?

is it right?


Mute is a temporary stage of a track. You can record track mutes as automation, but only in a sequence, not in song mode as far as I know. So for now, do what I told on my last post. After that, go to record mode, put MAIN OUT as the input, hit record than play your converted sequence. Done.

Later in your next project, try to work with the same sequence recording track mutes, when all you want to do is track mutes. Maybe this can work better for you, maybe not.