Track volume?

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Track volume?

By astral_Signal Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:58 am
I know there's track velocity, and individual PAD volume...but is there track volume?

i.e. Sequence 1, Track 1 (sample), Track 2 (sample 2), Track 3 (drum loop)

Can I adjust the level of track 2 in this example, or do I have to go into program mode and adjust each PADs level? From memory, even in Mixer mode I can only adjust PAD level.

Re: Track volume?

By sparq Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:21 pm
yes, what version OS do you have?
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Re: Track volume?

By Roger Nodge Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:04 pm
Nym wrote:^ that's track velocity, not track volume.

Got it, any good resource detailing the difference? Or is it in the manual? I ask because for me they have been the same, in effect, but I really should understand the difference and when to use either or. Thanks.
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Re: Track volume?

By Lampdog Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:29 pm
astral_Signal wrote:I know there's track velocity, and individual PAD volume...but is there track volume?

i.e. Sequence 1, Track 1 (sample), Track 2 (sample 2), Track 3 (drum loop)

Can I adjust the level of track 2 in this example, or do I have to go into program mode and adjust each PADs level? From memory, even in Mixer mode I can only adjust PAD level.

Normally you'd put tie 1 sample to 1 pad to 1 track and use the track volume in the mixer. That is your track mixer for that pad.

Re: Track volume?

By dtaa pla muk Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:41 pm
Got it, any good resource detailing the difference? Or is it in the manual? I ask because for me they have been the same, in effect, but I really should understand the difference and when to use either or. Thanks.


velocity is part of the data that comes in a midi note on/off
it's simply an integer from 0 - 127, and it controls what it is told to control
it can control AMP level, ie how loud the sample/synth is played
but this is not always the case, it also can determine filter cutoff and any number of other parameters.
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Re: Track volume?

By Roger Nodge Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:58 pm
Nym wrote:
Got it, any good resource detailing the difference? Or is it in the manual? I ask because for me they have been the same, in effect, but I really should understand the difference and when to use either or. Thanks.


velocity is part of the data that comes in a midi note on/off
it's simply an integer from 0 - 127, and it controls what it is told to control
it can control AMP level, ie how loud the sample/synth is played
but this is not always the case, it also can determine filter cutoff and any number of other parameters.

:idea: alright cool, good lookin!!
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Re: Track volume?

By astral_Signal Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:53 am
I'm using jjos1 v4.99 (look at my signature). It's a bit tedious that I can't alter 'track' level, but pad level only. In a situation where I have something mapped to all 16 pads, and/or more, i'l need to go into program mode and fine tune the level of every pad in use.

By the way, velocity is similar to level/volume as it affects how loud or soft the pad is played. I use full level for everything as im still pretty fresh to the MPC, but with full level off - it is a perfect example of real time velocity - i.e soft pads are low in level, hard pads are high in level.

Re: Track volume?

By dtaa pla muk Fri Jun 08, 2012 4:11 pm
velocity is NOT similar to volume. velocity can CONTROL volume but it does not necessarily do so. it only does this if it is told to.

It's a bit tedious that I can't alter 'track' level, but pad level only. In a situation where I have something mapped to all 16 pads, and/or more, i'l need to go into program mode and fine tune the level of every pad in use.


go into GPE and select all pads, then turn them down either at the program sample layer level or on the track level.

so, either at the level parameter here (what i usually use)

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or the track level here:

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edit, just saw that you're using an unsupported version of JJOS...these pictures are from os2xl, but it's probably similar in jjos1. look under the GPE section of the manual for your specific os, linked below.

jjos manuals: http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/os_manual.htm
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Re: Track volume?

By Bugfix Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:05 pm
Nym wrote:velocity is NOT similar to volume. velocity can CONTROL volume but it does not necessarily do so. it only does this if it is told to.

Yup, this gets often misunderstood JUST because it's set to control volume as default, but like Nym said, it doesn't have to control volume at all.

Re: Track volume?

By phx_chronic Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:39 pm
you might want to check out os2. that's when track mixer (mode+pad 4 i think) was introduced

peace
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