Mute groups/targets not working? 2500jj

I recently had a look in the 2500 manual so I can start using mute groups (avoided them til now). Well more specifically, I was dealin with a couple of instruments and trying to just use the mute targets. But generally both. I couldn't get it to work, apart from ONE lucky time and i'm not sure what I did differently to make it work, but generally when I set a mute target, step by step as in the manual, it just doesn't seem to do it.

e.g. I have my closed hats. I wanted to use Mute Targets to stick a few open hats in there. From the open hat, I set the Mute Target to be the closed hat. Then I recorded a track with the opens. I could still hear both playing at the same time in playback. Just to check it wasnt my ears deceiving me, I recorded a track of constant 32-note closed hats, and a track of constant opens, and played them together. I expected the closed to be muted but they werent, I was definitely hearing both together.

I experimented with a few more things, using mute groups with the kick drum etc, trying to see if its affected by which instrument starts playing first in the song. But it never ends up working for me to the point where I'm thinking its a fault in the MPC/OS rather than me missing something (which it usually is).

Anyone else experienced or heard about this? I'm using JJ OS btw.

Also, when mute groups are working, how would I know/have control over which of the instruments in the mute group mutes which other?

Cheers.

E

Hi,

Which JJ OS? Did you try to do a reset?

It works fine, it is not a bug or anything at all, you just need to know what you are doing ok. Can depend on which JJOS to for the details? I am not sure if you mean mute groups or targets. In for instane JJOSXL you assign the target or you assign the group. So for groups you would assign the samples to same group and none will overlap and be muting each other. If done with target it will only mute assigned target. This has to be same program of course. So that also answers your last question. As you decide, either using groups or target in same program. Try using the same track to. Also have poly on, seems wrong but have that program poly to on after setting it up. This is in program of course. or just make a seperate dedicated mono program to if you feel it is easier.

I recorded a track of constant 32-note closed hats, and a track of constant opens, and played them together.

I think that in the past there was a specification change causing problems with the same program in different tracks. I always use one program for one track and always store my drums in the same program so this answer won t be a great help but I m sure someone with the same workflow than you will tell you what to do

Thanks for the replies, well I feel a bit dumb because I can't remember which version OS it is, I'll try and find out from the MPC later, although I know I installed it about 7 years ago, so I dunno if that says anything about which version it was. This is at least a sign to update it!

I guess I am really just asking about mute targets. Maybe my working methods seem ridiculous but I only use one program per project. The program is always set to Poly and I usually just seperately mono any instruments that I don't want overlapping with itself.

So all I can think of trying now is putting the 2 relevant instruments on the same track. But that's kind of what seems wrong. I can lay out a 10 track beat then realise i want one instrument to completly mute another when it's playing, but you cant copy and paste between tracks. Also, I usually prefer all my instruments in a seperate track. But if le rat is right, I can't do much more other than change my entire way of working (although one program per track really doesnt make sense to me unless you mean you always have all your drums on one single track!)

Thanks