Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By MPC-Tutor Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:41 am
cafnyc wrote:Is it time to get rid of the 1000 JJOS 4.99 for an mpc renaissance?

Let me know why you think its a good, or bad idea!

C.


That's a pretty complex comparison to analyse. I think it would be easier for you to first explain your reasons for considering the move? Is there anything specific you are looking for.

Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By cafnyc Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:19 pm
I pretty much know that i will get a ren. Was just qurious to see how people feel in general.

It think its great that its integrated with the computer, but still feels and sounds like an mpc.

If im happy with the ren, i will probably get rid of the 1000.

I was just wondering if you guys see any reasons, that i have missed to keep the 1000 with JJ. (other than that it is stand alone).

It would be intersting to hear from somebody that have both maschines...
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By Coz Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:28 pm
It's too early to be making these sorts of comparisons. The Ren could bloom into an amazing workstation/Daw, but it's definitely not there yet.

It sounds like your mind is made up anyway, just bare in mind that you will be an early adopter and will have to put up with the hassle/fun that comes with the territory.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By Lampdog Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:47 pm
cafnyc wrote:I was just wondering if you guys see any reasons


**** wrote:keep in mind that the ren is a controller. so it won´t run without a computer connected to it.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By bliprock Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:06 pm
just get XL cafnyc. Its a much cheaper upgrade man, and hell it might be better than the Ren :wink: go on, you got the cash to splash on the Ren, just get JJOSXL and wait for the Ren to get cheaper. :lol: Win / win situation right. The kicker is you can always resell the one you do not like to some noob, at a profit. and they will might have updated it to :lol: well ok jokes aside, I always recommend JJOXL (advertising voice over voice) for the MPC1000.

Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By elmacaco Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:16 pm
I Love JJ OS 2XL on my 1000. I love stand alone MPC's. However, I got to see a MPC Renaissance in person and demoed by an Akai rep, and I have to say, it is impressive.

It really feels like using a 3000 or a 60, feels solid and well built, and a lot of good ideas in there already.

if the internal software begins to make possible what JJ OS can do I can see it being a real winner.

I can't see getting one as my primary MPC yet, since I don't use a computer except to record, not sure if I trust it to sequence my external rig. Those that are ITB anyway should check it out. Kills Maschine IMO.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By shugsy Fri Sep 28, 2012 6:39 pm
elmacaco wrote:I Love JJ OS 2XL on my 1000. I love stand alone MPC's. However, I got to see a MPC Renaissance in person and demoed by an Akai rep, and I have to say, it is impressive.

It really feels like using a 3000 or a 60, feels solid and well built, and a lot of good ideas in there already.

if the internal software begins to make possible what JJ OS can do I can see it being a real winner.

I can't see getting one as my primary MPC yet, since I don't use a computer except to record, not sure if I trust it to sequence my external rig. Those that are ITB anyway should check it out. Kills Maschine IMO.


Hi mate. I'm new on the forum and joined up to check out things like you mention here. I also have a 1000 with JJOSXL and wanted to know someone with the same setup and has seen the Ren in the flesh felt about it. Of course one of my concerns were the built in soundcard on the Ren and how it sounded. But posted about that.

I am interested in ITB aspect that the Ren brings. Thanks for posting the info about it.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By JAH Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:37 pm
Coz wrote:The Ren could bloom into an amazing workstation/Daw, but it's definitely not there yet.

Compared to a DAW its not there yet. But compared to a hardware MPC regardless of which model or OS you choose....it is certainly there.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By Coz Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:53 pm
JAH wrote:
Coz wrote:The Ren could bloom into an amazing workstation/Daw, but it's definitely not there yet.

Compared to a DAW its not there yet. But compared to a hardware MPC regardless of which model or OS you choose....it is certainly there.




It's a software product, so yeah it's not there at this point at all. Editing from the hardware with version 1.0 is not comparable to hardware MPCs either, with lagging screens and tiny waveforms being displayed etc.

Akai should also give the user the option to customise the main buttons, because having multiple shift button functions on a unit the size of the Ren is crazy.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By JAH Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:47 pm
Coz wrote:
JAH wrote:
Coz wrote:The Ren could bloom into an amazing workstation/Daw, but it's definitely not there yet.

Compared to a DAW its not there yet. But compared to a hardware MPC regardless of which model or OS you choose....it is certainly there.




It's a software product, so yeah it's not there at this point at all. Editing from the hardware with version 1.0 is not comparable to hardware MPCs either, with lagging screens and tiny waveforms being displayed etc.

Akai should also give the user the option to customise the main buttons, because having multiple shift button functions on a unit the size of the Ren is crazy.

Editing from the hardware using the large, full screen editor easily trumps the little LCDs screens with the tiny waveforms of hardware MPCs. Then add on the immediate slicing of samples and virtually no wait for audio processing..not to mention saving and loading of files. Overall, I can accomplish tasks significantly faster on the Ren as compared to a hardware MPC.

Most MPCs have Shift + or Mode + buttons. With the exception of Sample Rec, the remaining Shift + functions are less frequently used. There is one button access to Pad Banks A-D, Vintage Mode, Full Level, 16 Level, Step Sequence, Next Sequence, Track Mute, Pad Assign, Program Edit, Program Mix, Sequence Edit, Sample Edit, Song, Main Mode, Undo, Erase, Note Repeat, Browser, 5 dedicated buttons for filtering the files in the browser. That is a lot . The last 4 MPCs required Mode + Pad to access many of these functions as well as the MPC 2000XL/2000. Only the 4000 has as many one-button access options. The 3000 has one-button access as well, but then it is menu heavy.

While customizing the number buttons would be great, I would use them for Sample Rec and maybe Track Mix as everything else I need is just a press of a button away.
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Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By Coz Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:55 pm
JAH wrote:Editing from the hardware using the large, full screen editor easily trumps the little LCDs screens with the tiny waveforms of hardware MPCs.




That's no excuse for giving users an inferior workflow when editing from the hardware LCD.



JAH wrote:While customizing the number buttons would be great, I would use them for Sample Rec and maybe Track Mix as everything else I need is just a press of a button away.




As the feature set expands it makes more sense to give users the option to customise the numeric keys. There's enough buttons on the Ren to negate ever having to use the shift button. Akai should seriously consider implementing it. Why press two buttons when you can press one?

Re: Mpc 1000 JJOS 4.99 vs. MPC Renaissance?

By dazastah Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:23 am
Whats the import/export features like when switching between units.. i.e. make something on a 1000 then export to ren, or vice versa?

I'd def keep the 1000 for sure man. See if the ren makes the 1000 get dusty then sell it... IF the ren disappoints you and you don't really get any benefit then ditch the ren...
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