By MalaKai
Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:10 pm
* It's difficult to know where I should be posting this, whether in here or the 2500 area or the 'MPC1000 RAM and CF card Recommendations' subforum..
I'll try to make this short and to the point:
In the past I've used a MPC 1000 with OS2XL. I got lucky and found that this Komputer Bay 32 GB CF card worked perfectly:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NDEWWW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I may have even mentioned this in the behemoth memory and storage thread, where it was generally found that Komputer Bay products (particularly RAM) weren't working for some.
Eventually I broke the front CF pins on the 1000 and just decided to put a hard drive in there. This was when CF cards were still relatively more expensive than they are now in 2017.
Later I spent a year or so using a 2000XL then decided to get a 2500 with XLCD & OS128SP for main studio use (with the 1000 as a trusty backup/road and gigging companion).
Same 32 GB Komputer Bay CF card works perfectly in the 2500 front slot. I haven't done anything inside the machine yet to expand storage capacity. I do have the CF to IDE adapter which folks have been using as an alternative & cheaper form of SSD (with some issues like having to switch jumpers, etc. CD drive not working and other nuances I'm still trying to figure out)...
Since I like the speed of CF over mechanical hard drive I want to increase storage capacity, and at this point prices are so low for things compared with ~ 7-8 years ago that I might as well TOTALLY max out the storage.
As part of this I first wanted to see if a 128 GB CF card would work in the front CF reader. So I buy the Komputer Bay 128 GB version of the same type of card I was using (600x). The card came and it looked the same as the 32 GB version except it was UDMA 7 rather than UDMA 6 (which it's advertised as). The card did not work, and whether the UDMA # had anything to do with it I'm unsure of, but I seem to recall reading that UDMA 7 cards were either tricky or for the most part not working. For that matter some posts state trouble with UDMA 6 and/or anything larger than 32 GB. So whether UDMA # makes any difference or it's strictly the amount of space that one can fit into the front slot remains a mystery.. I'm almost 90% sure the 64 GB UMDA 6 Komputer Bay 600x CF card would work but after sending back the 128 GB card and getting a refund I haven't bought one to test it..
So in the background to all this there's still people experimenting with increasing storage internally, and using the IDE to CF adapter to SD to MicroSD, etc.
Recently the JJOS YouTube channel dropped this video:
This shows 64 GB working in the front slot using a MicroSD to CF adapter. The video also links to another video showing a similar Type I adapter reading 128 GB (but it doesn't specify if it's in the front slot or inside the machine).
SO ON TO THE MAIN QUESTION:
Now, in 2017, who knows for certain what the maximum total storage capacity is on 1000/2500??
If you can use 128 GB in front panel AND inside that would total 256 GB minus whatever the format takes out, which would probably be around 200 GB or so..
Has anyone done this? Completely maxed out the storage..
It also seems pertinent to mention that at this point the MicroSD/CF adapter method seems like the way to go.
As far as I can tell Micro SD XC 1 (UHS-1) type cards *should* work. And of course Type I MicroSD to CF adapters..
Ideally, having two adapter cards, one inside and one in the front slot with compatible MicroSD cards would seem perfect, as finding the right and largest capacity CF cards is somewhat of a crap shoot to say the least..
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I guess I didn't really make this short and to the point. A lot of common knowledge seems to be a slightly outdated on this issue. It combines JJOS and SSD mods and 'CF card Recommendations,' hence not knowing quite where to post it.
Knowledgeable heads chime in..
I'll try to make this short and to the point:
In the past I've used a MPC 1000 with OS2XL. I got lucky and found that this Komputer Bay 32 GB CF card worked perfectly:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004NDEWWW/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I may have even mentioned this in the behemoth memory and storage thread, where it was generally found that Komputer Bay products (particularly RAM) weren't working for some.
Eventually I broke the front CF pins on the 1000 and just decided to put a hard drive in there. This was when CF cards were still relatively more expensive than they are now in 2017.
Later I spent a year or so using a 2000XL then decided to get a 2500 with XLCD & OS128SP for main studio use (with the 1000 as a trusty backup/road and gigging companion).
Same 32 GB Komputer Bay CF card works perfectly in the 2500 front slot. I haven't done anything inside the machine yet to expand storage capacity. I do have the CF to IDE adapter which folks have been using as an alternative & cheaper form of SSD (with some issues like having to switch jumpers, etc. CD drive not working and other nuances I'm still trying to figure out)...
Since I like the speed of CF over mechanical hard drive I want to increase storage capacity, and at this point prices are so low for things compared with ~ 7-8 years ago that I might as well TOTALLY max out the storage.
As part of this I first wanted to see if a 128 GB CF card would work in the front CF reader. So I buy the Komputer Bay 128 GB version of the same type of card I was using (600x). The card came and it looked the same as the 32 GB version except it was UDMA 7 rather than UDMA 6 (which it's advertised as). The card did not work, and whether the UDMA # had anything to do with it I'm unsure of, but I seem to recall reading that UDMA 7 cards were either tricky or for the most part not working. For that matter some posts state trouble with UDMA 6 and/or anything larger than 32 GB. So whether UDMA # makes any difference or it's strictly the amount of space that one can fit into the front slot remains a mystery.. I'm almost 90% sure the 64 GB UMDA 6 Komputer Bay 600x CF card would work but after sending back the 128 GB card and getting a refund I haven't bought one to test it..
So in the background to all this there's still people experimenting with increasing storage internally, and using the IDE to CF adapter to SD to MicroSD, etc.
Recently the JJOS YouTube channel dropped this video:
This shows 64 GB working in the front slot using a MicroSD to CF adapter. The video also links to another video showing a similar Type I adapter reading 128 GB (but it doesn't specify if it's in the front slot or inside the machine).
SO ON TO THE MAIN QUESTION:
Now, in 2017, who knows for certain what the maximum total storage capacity is on 1000/2500??
If you can use 128 GB in front panel AND inside that would total 256 GB minus whatever the format takes out, which would probably be around 200 GB or so..
Has anyone done this? Completely maxed out the storage..
It also seems pertinent to mention that at this point the MicroSD/CF adapter method seems like the way to go.
As far as I can tell Micro SD XC 1 (UHS-1) type cards *should* work. And of course Type I MicroSD to CF adapters..
Ideally, having two adapter cards, one inside and one in the front slot with compatible MicroSD cards would seem perfect, as finding the right and largest capacity CF cards is somewhat of a crap shoot to say the least..
--------------
I guess I didn't really make this short and to the point. A lot of common knowledge seems to be a slightly outdated on this issue. It combines JJOS and SSD mods and 'CF card Recommendations,' hence not knowing quite where to post it.
Knowledgeable heads chime in..