By beatnick
Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:06 am
Has any one got it to sync to Ableton Live 5 using MTC yet?
I have tried everything... but no joy.
I have tried everything... but no joy.
By Satoyo
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:02 pm
.. but it can recieve mtc !
This is how I sync my mpc:
I connect the mpc midi out to my interface's midi in and
the main outs to my interface's audio input
(not necessesary for syncing, but you'll need it later for finetuning)
go to the SYNC Menu (MODE + PAD 9 then F2)
and set it up like this:
Sync out: A MASTER
Mode: MIDI TIME CLOCK
Framerate: 30
send MMC: ON
your empeecee sends out mtc and mmc now
Start Ableton Live and go to
OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > MIDI/SYNC
set the SYNC button of your Midi ports midi input to ON
Set the Type to MIDI TIMECODE
Set the Midi Time code rate to SMPT 30 FPS NON DROP
Activate the EXT button on top, next to the BPM display for setting
Live into External Sync Mode.
Also activate the button with the black and white dot (that's Live's Metronome).
Start your empeecee in Overdub Mode (OVER DUB + PLAY)
The empeecee and Live should now start playing.
You should hear the two Metronomes Sounds running not perfectly in Sync.
To fine tune that, play around with the MIDI SYNC DELAY until both are in complete Sync. (mine runs at -25.5 ms, for example, but that may differ...)
Congrats, you did it.
Now live is running in sync with your empeecee and you can control Live's
sequencer controls (play, stop, ff,....) with the controls of your mpc.
you can also send midi data from the mpc to virtual instruments loaded up
in live.
All that funky vsti's controlled and sequenced with intuitive"hands on"-style
of the empeecee, isn't this lovely...
Have fun folks,
Satoyo
This is how I sync my mpc:
I connect the mpc midi out to my interface's midi in and
the main outs to my interface's audio input
(not necessesary for syncing, but you'll need it later for finetuning)
go to the SYNC Menu (MODE + PAD 9 then F2)
and set it up like this:
Sync out: A MASTER
Mode: MIDI TIME CLOCK
Framerate: 30
send MMC: ON
your empeecee sends out mtc and mmc now
Start Ableton Live and go to
OPTIONS > PREFERENCES > MIDI/SYNC
set the SYNC button of your Midi ports midi input to ON
Set the Type to MIDI TIMECODE
Set the Midi Time code rate to SMPT 30 FPS NON DROP
Activate the EXT button on top, next to the BPM display for setting
Live into External Sync Mode.
Also activate the button with the black and white dot (that's Live's Metronome).
Start your empeecee in Overdub Mode (OVER DUB + PLAY)
The empeecee and Live should now start playing.
You should hear the two Metronomes Sounds running not perfectly in Sync.
To fine tune that, play around with the MIDI SYNC DELAY until both are in complete Sync. (mine runs at -25.5 ms, for example, but that may differ...)
Congrats, you did it.
Now live is running in sync with your empeecee and you can control Live's
sequencer controls (play, stop, ff,....) with the controls of your mpc.
you can also send midi data from the mpc to virtual instruments loaded up
in live.
All that funky vsti's controlled and sequenced with intuitive"hands on"-style
of the empeecee, isn't this lovely...
Have fun folks,
Satoyo
By Antonym
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:14 pm
satayo - thank you. that will help when i sync mine to acid.
much appreciation.
much appreciation.
By Satoyo
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:23 pm
good luck antonym...
a thing i just discovered:
to do a tempo change you have to disable the EXT button in Live.
set live to the new desired tempo (lets say 94 instead of 120 bpm)
then activate the EXT again.
now set your empeecee to 94 and there you go...
a thing i just discovered:
to do a tempo change you have to disable the EXT button in Live.
set live to the new desired tempo (lets say 94 instead of 120 bpm)
then activate the EXT again.
now set your empeecee to 94 and there you go...
By Antonym
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:29 pm
i'm afraid i don't understand...
do tempo changes registered from the mpc not get transfered via mtc?
do tempo changes registered from the mpc not get transfered via mtc?
By Satoyo
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:51 pm
normally they should be transfered but it didn't worked for me...
By brokenrhodes
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:52 pm
all last night i was trying to get Live to sync and i'm sure i did the same exact thing Satayo described , but it didn't work.
now i wonder if it's a hardware issue.
satayo, what kind of midi interface are you using?
-thanks
now i wonder if it's a hardware issue.
satayo, what kind of midi interface are you using?
-thanks
By Satoyo
Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:54 pm
I'm using a RME Hammerfall Multiface...
my nick is Satoyo, by the way...
my nick is Satoyo, by the way...
By 8bitsofdeath
Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:52 am
live is working fine for me and following tempo. using ableton 5 & m-audio midi sport 1x1. using MTC btw.
By medway
Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:44 am
Antonym wrote:i'm afraid i don't understand...
do tempo changes registered from the mpc not get transfered via mtc?
I wouldn't think they should as MTC does not carry tempo information, its absolute time like SMPTE.
By Method
Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:50 am
How should the connection look like if i want to controll Live with the mpc, then play VST instruments and rewire Reason and play it with my Oxygen 8 and record everything into the mpc seqencer?
I got a lexicon omega soundcard.
I got a lexicon omega soundcard.
By Satoyo
Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:54 pm
here's how i do it:
On your mpc, set your TRACK setting from DRUM to MIDI and set your MIDI output from NONE to, e.g. 1A.
I saved a .PGM file where every track uses a different midi channel so i can send 16 (32, if you use your second midi out) channels of midi data.
In Ableton Live, click on the small black button labeled "I.O"
Its next to the Master output fader on the right side.
Now your Input and Output routings appear.
Now, create some midi channels in Live (CTRL+SHIFT+T).
There are four knobs:
MIDI FROM: select the midi interface where the you plugged your MPC in.
CHANNEL: select your Desired channel
MONITOR:
IN: will playback all the time
AUTO: will playback only if the channel is set to record
OFF: no playback at all
I can't tell things about rewiring exactly, because i don't do it. things may
differ a bit.
But here you go:
MIDI TO:
if you wanna send your midi data to another channel or to Reason you can set it here. if done correctly, a list with instruments should appear, select your desired...
If you wanna hear the Sound from your rewired programm, you'll have to
create an audio track and select the rewired program and the synth as input.
Set your channels correct and then, the mpc will use live as one big rack.
you can push your pads and have your mpc feel, but you will be able to mix down nicely in live using plugins & stuff.
hope that helps,
Satoyo
On your mpc, set your TRACK setting from DRUM to MIDI and set your MIDI output from NONE to, e.g. 1A.
I saved a .PGM file where every track uses a different midi channel so i can send 16 (32, if you use your second midi out) channels of midi data.
In Ableton Live, click on the small black button labeled "I.O"
Its next to the Master output fader on the right side.
Now your Input and Output routings appear.
Now, create some midi channels in Live (CTRL+SHIFT+T).
There are four knobs:
MIDI FROM: select the midi interface where the you plugged your MPC in.
CHANNEL: select your Desired channel
MONITOR:
IN: will playback all the time
AUTO: will playback only if the channel is set to record
OFF: no playback at all
I can't tell things about rewiring exactly, because i don't do it. things may
differ a bit.
But here you go:
MIDI TO:
if you wanna send your midi data to another channel or to Reason you can set it here. if done correctly, a list with instruments should appear, select your desired...
If you wanna hear the Sound from your rewired programm, you'll have to
create an audio track and select the rewired program and the synth as input.
Set your channels correct and then, the mpc will use live as one big rack.
you can push your pads and have your mpc feel, but you will be able to mix down nicely in live using plugins & stuff.
hope that helps,
Satoyo