My biggest JJ need: sampling by samples

ie being able to record for a length of time determined by the number of samples needed, i find that seconds alone is not accurate enough for me. i know i can chop afterwards, but it would help me out a lot, what do others think?

I can see a use for that. I also think it would be nice if Direct Record had an option to stop recording at the end of a seq. This would make chopping these samples into bar divisions easier.

determined by the number of samples needed

by this do you mean the actual number in the hundred thousands or w/e that correspond to x bars at x tempo as a record limit?

what is your ideal record? kind of like on/off to get a perfect loop at a given tempo?

maybe if you explain your goal here (what you're doing, why you'd rather not have to trim the wav later) i could understand better your hope.

yes, numbers like you see in the trim screen.

the aim is, as you say, to be able to record loops that fit the sequence perfectly, purely to save time adjusting.

of course it's not essential, but it would be nice. the other option would be to have time in minutes, seconds and milliseconds too.

thinking about it though, it's probably a stupid idea, given that you'd have to work out how many samples to fit x bars etc. so it'd be just as easy to trim afterwards. an automatic setting could work though, if it could just record according to the number of bars you have set on the main screen.

i'm just rambling now, so i'm gonna stop. i think it's safe to say, this may be a pointless idea. i dunno.

Antonym wrote:
maybe if you explain your goal here (what you're doing, why you'd rather not have to trim the wav later) i could understand better your hope.

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HAHAHH man

i see why this would be bada$$, but on the other hand consider this:

say your loop is 1 bar recorded perfectly to the sample in one go (man that would be sweet!!) you now have a loop assigned to the pad you can trigger at will.. a perfect loop. a scenario would be a 1 bar kick loop at the beginning of every bar. if you wanted to do a fill, you could just retrigger the loop a few times. either way you will have to retrigger the loop at every bar. if you have a little bit extra it wont make a difference because a 1 bar loop is going to have to be retriggered again after 1 bar plays if you want it to play looped. just set start/end points on your sample. if anything, you would be able to change the tempo a few tenths.

p.s. the mpc stores sample start/end data in the sample. i recommend when you make recordings to record a little bit before & after your sample and use start/end points to select the bit you want. i'm not talking seconds, just a little bit. it gives you some options later on. when i first started chopping breaks i would try to make these ninja kutz but they were weak because i was clueless as to wtf i was doing. someone clued me in that since i was clueless, it'd be best to just make big chops where i know i got the whole sound and use the start/end points & my ears to make the sample fit. at first all my beats never contained that little 'prehit' on the drum samples and the feeling was always missing. once i figured that out, i just adjusted the start/end points on my existing chop..didn't have to sample or chop it again. its all about the library.

apologize for the lengthy post but i love to play with little loop machines so recording loops flawlessly was always a desire until i realized that there really isn't a benefit and if anything theres a consequence!!

do whatever feels right tho..

thanks that's goodd advice, i guess i'm just a bit pedantic, and need to know that any loops i use will fit perfectly. by loops, i mean: my own sequences resampled, by the way, not sample cd loops. just thought i'd throw that in there, in case i get made to sit in the 'pillage corner'.