why only 20 songs?

Am I the only one who gets into trouble with the amount of songs the MPC can handle? It has only 20 slots available for songs, but I need more when playing live.
Does anybody know if this could be rectified by JJ or would this cost too much memory (it's only references to sequences...)?

Or does nobody use the song mode? It's the only mode that hasn't had a single adjustement by JJ, so i'm guessing it's not his/their biggest interest. There is a bug in there that has been signaled to JJ a long time ago, but didn't get any feedback : make a song with at least one sequence HOLD, press start with the cursor on the song title (not on the sequence title), and try triggering the NEXT key : won't work.

I dont even use the song mode i just program all of my stuff into one sequence. So i have 99 at my disposal. Interesting question no the less.

I use it live all the time. I have looping sequences that we improvise over (jazz), and by putting them in the right order, I can use the footpedal to go to the next one while continuing to play myself (i'm a piano player). So we might have one sequence that has the intro and head of the tune, two or three sequences that we improvise over, and a sequence with the head again and the outro. The impro sequences are set to HOLD, so they keep on looping until I press the pedal.

I like that. I find that we all use the akais so differently. These machines are so versatile

no offense dunewar but the words belgium and jazz reminds me of bill baileys stand up. no wonder you need more than 20 songs in the mpc. he does a lot of references to belgian jazz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ruurkdNg0

Dunewar wrote:I use it live all the time. I have looping sequences that we improvise over (jazz), and by putting them in the right order, I can use the footpedal to go to the next one while continuing to play myself (i'm a piano player). So we might have one sequence that has the intro and head of the tune, two or three sequences that we improvise over, and a sequence with the head again and the outro. The impro sequences are set to HOLD, so they keep on looping until I press the pedal.

You could do exactly the same in next sequence mode I believe, and you would have 99 sequences available. It would only require that you organise the sequences in the appropriate order of your set beforehand.

How do I do that without using my hands? The simplicity of the song mode is that I can just tap the foot pedal, and it will go to the next sequence without me looking. For the next sequence thing (which I use a lot too), i'd have to be looking at the pads and concentrating on hitting the right one, and sometimes I'm playing too much myself to do that.
I love JJ, but he is kinda neglecting the live side of this machine, IMHO.

You could do exactly the same in next sequence mode I believe, and you would have 99 sequences available. It would only require that you organise the sequences in the appropriate order of your set beforehand.

my thoughts exactly...if the foot pedal doesn't do that you could invest in a midi pedal...although all this would get complicated if you change your set list around..

Dunewar , don't forget you can CONVERT song to sequence with the press of a button. keep the song format backed up on you pc so you can edit it later ,if need be, in a way your used to.

If you use CONVERT , be aware that all your sequences should have the same track assignments for a no fuss transition. ( use track move if that's not the case before you convert )

Tnx goobadrum, but I allready do that. All the sequences that have no looping parts are converted to one sequence (because otherwise i'm running into the 99 sequences limit). The only ones that are still in song mode are the ones that have a looping part somewhere (with the HOLD function in song mode).

aahhhh , well JJOS2 seems to have more space ,bless him, maybe he can give you more songs , and fix that bug you mentioned.send a request again

no, guys, the thing not to do is inundate him with requests. plainly written on the page is this:


About a request
The functional addition which the programmer is planning is performed till March, 2008.
Therefore, when request is possible, being added becomes after April, 2008.
Midi CC in is contained in the future additional schedule.

freezerman wrote:

Dunewar wrote:I use it live all the time. I have looping sequences that we improvise over (jazz), and by putting them in the right order, I can use the footpedal to go to the next one while continuing to play myself (i'm a piano player). So we might have one sequence that has the intro and head of the tune, two or three sequences that we improvise over, and a sequence with the head again and the outro. The impro sequences are set to HOLD, so they keep on looping until I press the pedal.

You could do exactly the same in next sequence mode I believe, and you would have 99 sequences available. It would only require that you organise the sequences in the appropriate order of your set beforehand.

i understand that you have some sequence changes that you prefer to keep automated, but then, if 20 songs is not enough (and since you have to use a hand to switch between songs) you could separate your set in two (or more) "all seqs and songs" files, that you could load in just a millisecond at the appropriate moment. If the MPC RAM already holds the sample data this is very fast.

Hey thanx, that's a really usefull tip. I stayed away from loading in everything in the middle of the set, because there are a lot of samples in the memory which is time consuming, but indeed, I could just load in the sequences and have the samples loaded in before we begin!

It's so simple but I didn't think of it...thnx man.
It's not a solution yet, but it's a doable workaround.