quick question: os2 clarification

okay, i'm psyched to see adsr in os2 but still can't figure out if its applicable per pad or per layer...which is it? if i buy os2 for adsr, will i still have to use simult to get individual adsr per sound? imo simult is a waste of pads and all i need is the option to have adsr per layer.

side note: can someone puhlease provide the official jj site with some correct english translation? i think he could sell more copies if the website actually made sense.

wrd!

in [DRUM] program you get adsr on every pad each pad you get 3 layers

in [INST] program you get 1 adsr governing all the pads and 1 layer.

(all hoping jj adds 3 layers to INST)

scientist wrote:side note: can someone puhlease provide the official jj site with some correct english translation? i think he could sell more copies if the website actually made sense.

wrd!

The only thing you need to understand is the DL is in English and it clearly shows a number and ver. with DOWNLOAD. It states clearly also that you can "get OS here" if you have to pay for it. You may have to wait until the manual comes out and is posted here. JJ speaks little English and his wording has to be figured out sometimes. It make you a better person for trying to read it and decipher what JJ is trying to relay.

yo, i'll just speak on when you described simult being a waste of pads
how often are you using 64 pads per program!!!?? you must be building monster programs.

you have 99 programs that you could be using.
so as not to waste pads, here is what i suggest.

say you want to simult A01. typically, i just use B01 because if my drum programs begin to spill over from the first pad bank, i just create a new drum program. however if you typically use multiple pad banks, divide it in half. use pad banks A and B, and use pad banks C and D as corresponding simult banks.

you have an unbelievable number of pads to use! don't avoid simult because of that. simult is the TRUE layer due to the fact that you have a whole separate ADSR set for the 2nd layer. at this point, the only time i actually use pad layers is to use sample Xfade. otherwise, it's simult every time.

i don't think you are confused, but if you need help let me know

I think "simult program" would be a good feature, you could do all sorts of stuff, including instrument programs linked to other instrument programs but with differnet adsr settings etc. Emu have "linked presets"in their machines and it is very useful.
surely it'd be just a case of sending midi data to two programs rather than one....not that id have a clue as how to code it though!haha

@ antonym: yep i actually use up all the pads. instead of building up a program for a certain song i build up entire programs of sounds (e.g. i'll sit and just make kicks for an hour or two and move from bank to bank until every pad is full) then use that program as the palette to choose from. its a good way to keep the sound-designing separate from the songwriting. but i haven't dug into simult too deeply so there are probably other benefits i haven't even discovered yet.

this is the thing though: since the dawn of sample layering, the idea of using the attack of one kick and the decay of a second kick has been a staple...i see no reason (esp. since jj cut a layer) that we can't have adsr per layer per pad.

@hiphoppa: i respect your theory on the translation. engrish indeed.

thanks all...