i wonder?

So far, what JJ is doing with os 2 is spectacular. He is truly trying to make the mpc 1000 a standalone machine... a far cry from those akai os 1.07 days.

I'm just thinking tho'.

Lately i've been just using my mpc and a pair of headphones... nothing else. not even my turntable or records...

just going in old files just trying to flip em' so im just chopping and re sampling... pitching up, choping resampling, pitching down, chopping add some silly bit grunger and compression... (yea, i know... im just using the mpc standalone) timestretching... chopping, resampling, panning, changing track velocity so then im like... damn, im mixing in the mpc...

then im like... hey. i like this beat. but, im away from my track machine... and i figure. "just resample the main outs just so i can hear it just for the hell of it, right?" then i come to a problem:


all the flipping and resampling has eaten all my memory....

So... IMO the mpc by itself is real grimey... if you want it rugged to the point its hilarious... just mix it down the best way you can in the box and resample the main outs.

but here's a suggestion for jj... for the situation im in...

1 mpc 1000 with 40gb harddrive, 1 pair of headphones, 1 ipod, 1 usb cable, 1 laptop, and 128 mb's maxed out. (i dont do this normally im just going thru old files i was a bit reckless back in 06 )

I gotta a dope beat and i want to just throw the 2 track wav bout 3 mins to the harddrive. i obviously dont have 3 mins of sample time left... so...

I wonder...

is it possible for jj to create and option for a direct 2 track mix straight to the harddrive.
like, you resample the sequence itself. then it'll give you another option like, to pad a01, but instead straight to harddrive or stream the 2 track thru usb to the computer(farfetched). so it wont mess with your memory.

It sounds crazy. and im all about tracking the beat out... but its cool to just listen to my "sketches" while im on the go. It could be an end all solution to those (like me) with a tight budget (and would love to hear the results!)


For example:
if you got the mpc over a friends house, make something on the fly, and they so happen to like the beat... then re-sample"burn" the beat to hard drive or cf card and usb dump to their computer.

I know, with users who practice "sample tidyness" or have track machines/interfaces. laptops/desktops. this makes the idea kinda pointless to some but im just thinking of other possiblities and sound options for tracks and making the mpc even more standalone then it already is.

I know im a bit scatterbrained but i think this method of filing tracks is possible. or hopefully being implemented in os 2.

just keeping my fingers crossed.

As I have understood this, the problem with streaming to or from the drive in any other mode besides LOAD/SAVE is that the 1000/2500 platform lacks a dedicated drive controller. LOAD/SAVE switches the whole CPU over to single-task drive control and nothing else because it can only handle one mode at a time. No controller, no drive access.

The new "not really 5000 but actually 3500" MPC is obviously based on newer hardware that must include some type of full-time drive controller, otherwise the drive streaming option wouldn't be possible in sequencer mode.

I think it's too much for the 1k. JJ once said it's impossible to play a sequence and access the hard drive at once, which is why the sequence stops when you go to the load or save screens.

edit: as he ^^^ says

well can always just main out just your hook once and then ur verse once and then ur bridge etcc....
empty tha memory
sequence the samples of your beat
and just main out tha actual stereo of your hook and verse bridge etc..


you should definetly have enough space for that

yeah i feel you on that... its all about making sure the start and end points on the track line up... and it shouldn't take much space at all. im just on some grandiose bs right now. all i know is when i start my new projects its on like a mofuukka!

gunmetal speaking of mixing in the box, what do you recommend being that the eq on the 1000 is far from proper?

Im sorry what do you mean...?


i use a shyt mixer... alesis. multitrack 12... lifes been 2 real 4 me to take advantage of my studio. but i use a korg d3200 to "polish"... everything else i do is a secret/experimental. or just look down.

and 4 the record i wonder why my "new beats" sound better in the headphones? this takes some research....

gunmetal wrote:So far, what JJ is doing with os 2 is spectacular. He is truly trying to make the mpc 1000 a standalone machine... a far cry from those akai os 1.07 days.

Imo with polyphony of 32, mpc isn't that powerful as a standalone machine.. I wish JJ will be adding as much midi controlling possibilities as possible. I truely hope all the pad pattern etc functions can also be used to trigger via midi.

1000dB wrote:

gunmetal wrote:So far, what JJ is doing with os 2 is spectacular. He is truly trying to make the mpc 1000 a standalone machine... a far cry from those akai os 1.07 days.

Imo with polyphony of 32, mpc isn't that powerful as a standalone machine.. I wish JJ will be adding as much midi controlling possibilities as possible. I truely hope all the pad pattern etc functions can also be used to trigger via midi.

there a way around the polyphony... if you resample... pitch up... timestretch... what could you be possibly doing to max out your polyphony? if you mind me asking

it's sooo easy to run out of polyphony these days
stereo inst pgms
simulted drum layers w/ maybe even a stereo snare or 2
stereo sample chops

32 is gone in no time...

oh... yeah. It's probably cuz i sample in mono... but theres still ways to make loops and sample them... then one shot em back to the sequence.

very very true stereo sounds count as two voices, its interesting cause this isn't the case with every sampler....this is also one reason why id like to be able to choose L/R or Stereo for the sample inside the program rather than havin' to convert the sample from trim mode, you could compose at leisure with mono samples and switch back to stereo for auditioning or when you reach the final tracking out stage.

i'm both scared and settled w/ a 32 voice polyphony for how i use my jjos2

i'm settled because i always make it work, one way or another. that's the most comforting thing, and in a lot of ways, the end of the story.

i'm scared because i worry that if i get much more complex, i will completely separate myself from certain sections of my beats when i "go mobile," away from my studio DAW. however, if i carefully choose which sounds become external in DAW, i can run off with the main body/essential samples/sequences all in my mpc. also, there's the audio track trick, where you just bounce down all DAW sounds to audio track before leaving.

i've looked into a variety of softsamplers but i'm always frustrated and disappointed. a lack of good looping options, individual control, etc throws me off. i've been intrigued by Phatmatik Pro (but it seems buggy in windows) and liveslice (but there are no great looping options).

troubling times. still, like i said, i make it work one way or another.
i do often really enjoy having 16 bit everything in the mpc1000, and then layering 24 bit stuff on top of that from DAW and Reason.

hilariously enough, 16 bit really is the new lofi!

http://nymantics.com/nym-lesserknowngood.mp3

theres a real hot layed back vibe to dat beat


fyah