TRYING OUT THE LOW END THEORY

I am slicing my sample up say to 8 pads. I then try to add the same sample to the same pads but I am trying to change the filter on it. It seems as if I cant do it that way. Any suggestions? The only way I know is to send the 2nd pair of sliced samples to another program and change the filter setting there, but then i would have to play the 2nd sample exactly like the first one that has no filter change. Any ideas?

im not entirely sure what your trying to achieve. you mean your using 8 samples and covering all 16 pads with 4 different filter variations?

OS2 has only one filter per pad, but you could try copying pads and using simult pad

my bad for the clarity of what i am trying to say. I have a 2 bar loop, sliced into 8 sections. I place these on 8 pads. I want the same pads to have the same exact sliced samples but with them being filtered. When i go to the mode program page i have the ability to set atleast 4 samples on each one of the 16 pads. But when i lay down the 2nd sample which is the same as the first it wont allow me to change the filter on it. I want the slice sample say for pad 1 to have the original slice with no effect and the same exact sample with a filter on it. Sorry if it sounds confusing

try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

After you copy the program and lowpass all the samples, all you need to do is copy the appropriate track and set it to the newly copied program.

Or you could do it jacpot's way. One drawback to his way is you lose the ability to make the program mono.

The number of samples you have determines which method is quicker. I have done both.

Thanks for the advice. I will try it.

Jacpot wrote:try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

doesn't that phase the hell out of everything?
sometimes i'll do something like that but instead of filtering the top half, i'll just pitch em 12 down (or up) and then simult.

but regarding lowend theory i tend to not use it so i can't help much other than suggesting non-mpc filters/eq to prep the sample

Nym wrote:

Jacpot wrote:try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

doesn't that phase the hell out of everything?

I dont know, I actually never tried it out. It was just a suggestion, It shouldnt phase out though why would it? I layer samples all the time

Jacpot wrote:

Nym wrote:

Jacpot wrote:try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

doesn't that phase the hell out of everything?

I dont know, I actually never tried it out. It was just a suggestion, It shouldnt phase out though why would it? I layer samples all the time

Phasing
The hollow sound that occurs when two identical tracks are run in near-perfect sync.

thedvs01 wrote:

Jacpot wrote:

Nym wrote:

Jacpot wrote:try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

doesn't that phase the hell out of everything?

I dont know, I actually never tried it out. It was just a suggestion, It shouldnt phase out though why would it? I layer samples all the time

Phasing
The hollow sound that occurs when two identical tracks are run in near-perfect sync.

I didnt ask what it was homie we all know what phasing is. I said Y would Nym think it would phase. They wont becase The frequencies would be different. One would have the low pass filter one wouldnt

Jacpot wrote:

thedvs01 wrote:

Jacpot wrote:

Nym wrote:

Jacpot wrote:try this.
Assign your 8 samples to the bottom 8 pads then assign the same 8 samples to the top 8 pads. Now take the top 8 and filter them down. Now go into your simult section and assign the for instance pad A1 the original sample to play at the same time as say pad a9 the same sample just filtered. When you hit one pad it will play both the clean version and the filtered version at the same time. Now do that for all of them and boom you got it.

doesn't that phase the hell out of everything?

I dont know, I actually never tried it out. It was just a suggestion, It shouldnt phase out though why would it? I layer samples all the time

Phasing
The hollow sound that occurs when two identical tracks are run in near-perfect sync.

I didnt ask what it was homie we all know what phasing is. I said Y would Nym think it would phase. They wont becase The frequencies would be different. One would have the low pass filter one wouldnt

Yeah I do this with every beat and no phasing maybe a little if you are using Stereo samples but i tend to use stereo and mono.

you'll get phasing at the lower frequencies because the two samples are the same and being played back in near perfect sync. filtering the top end out doesn't mean it won't phase.

Mr modnaR wrote:you'll get phasing at the lower frequencies because the two samples are the same and being played back in near perfect sync. filtering the top end out doesn't mean it won't phase.

And y is that, I dont quite get it. If one sample is playing normal and the other one is playing low end. I dont understand y it would phase

think of the sample being composed of "ABC"

A=bass
B=mids
C=treble

(ultrasimplified)

so you have ABC. then you lowpass it, removing BC. now you just have A.

your original sample has A already in it. when you add em together you get

AABC

in other words, they're BOTH playing "low end," but one of em is playing lowend exclusively. the other, it's just part of the ABC.

and this is where phasing often occurs.