Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
By Soultruth1 Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:23 pm
First of all I'd like to say hello to everyone here at mpc-forums.com :D I've been scanning through this section quite often recently, and am glad to be apart of what's going on here finally. With that being said, here are my thoughts on the MPC 500.

I'd like to start off by asking the question why is the MPC 500 referred to as the "entry level" MPC around here? Anyone who has become familiar with the little thing knows it is only limited in areas that deny portability. Anyways....

FIRST THOUGHTS: A good friend of mine is a proud owner of the MPC 5000, but before he grabbed his monster he played with the 500 a bit. I didn't get so much as a glimpse of it, but he did fill me in on what his experience with it was like. Long story short, he ended up getting rid of it a couple weeks after purchasing it because he believed it was too complicated to get a desired work flow, issues with the small screen, and a few various other minor "personal taste" arguments.

Even with this being the first time I've heard of the thing, I was a bit turned away from the idea of purchasing one yet still interested in it's portability.

HANDS ON EXPERIENCE REVIEW: I've owned my 500 for a little over a month now (roughly) and couldn't enjoy it more. At first I planned on getting a used 1000 or 2500, but ended up buying the 500 brand new for $580 due to availability, and because it was a 20th birthday gift to myself :) I've always wanted to make instrumentals on an MPC since I started getting into J Dilla and Madlib, and I figured what better time then now to purchase one and up my game a little, using a new machine.

Prior to buying the 500, I did most if not all of my instrumentals on DAWs and MIDI controllers. I used a conjuction of Magix Music Maker 16, FL Studio 9, Virtual DJ 6, and hundreds of self made and professional sound kits to make my jams. Midi controllers I've previously owned include the Akai LPD 8, Korg Nano Pad, Akai LPK 25, M-Audio KeyStudio 49 key midi keyboard(which I still own and use on occasion), and a pair of Numark Turntables I used to sample vinyl.

Now, I've been using Recycle to chop my samples, and the 500 to make my instrumentals. Sequencing on any of the MPC's is a dream for any hip hop producer or beat maker. Being able to load my samples to a program and begin recording and overdubbing to create a sequence is really the most fun I've had making instrumentals to date. The 500 is limited in a few ways yes, but having limitless possibilities in a DAW doesn't always mean the music will be better. The simplicity of this machine is what makes it shine in my opinion. The work flow can be sluggish at first due to the small screen, but it's easily learned and shouldn't be a problem for anyone who's serious about making music after a couple weeks.

FINAL THOUGHTS/RECOMMENDATION: If you're a hip hop artist who's either new in the game or has been around and just wanting a new toy to mess with, I highly recommend the MPC 500. The portability is a great plus, being able to create sequences on the bus or during a road trip is just amazing at the quality given in this machine. Just load it with some batteries and you're good to go. Sure it has 4 pads less than the other models, but the absence of this extra row of pads isn't going to make a difference in the quality of your music. Equipment like this is really just an empty canvas, and really shines when an artist uses it to its capabilities to create something beautiful. Don't let the fact that this MPC is the cheapest in the line fool you into thinking it's the worst one out there. Its portability is it's selling point, and that MPC feel is just as apparent in this model as it is any other model.



Regardless of anyone's opinion on the machine and it's capabilities, it's all about the music anyways. Even if you're working on free software, if the beats are dope and the samples are original, that's all that matters. I would suggest any MPC on the line to individuals making music off of strictly software.

P.S. - I've upgraded the RAM to 128mb, and the CF memory card to 2gb. I highly recommend upgrading if you plan on making music with this thing often.
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By Coz Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:40 pm
If you're used to a full-sized MPC, the 500 ain't really gonna cut it in any department other than portability.
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By OriginalProducer Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:45 pm
If you're used to a full-sized MPC, the 500 ain't really gonna cut it in any department other than portability.

for what i understand he's not saying it is the best mpc but it's good for the price and it's a "real mpc" ! the entry level mpc !
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By Coz Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:50 pm
I know what he's saying, and it's good that he's happy with the 500. It is the base model though, whichever way it's wrapped up.
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By Coz Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:52 pm
2500 coming from 10 years with the 2kxl. I've also used the 1k for a few days and played around on the 2k classic... just bought a 4k, although it's in need of repair.

I know my MPCs. The 500 ain't for me.
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By OriginalProducer Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:59 pm
I know my MPCs. The 500 ain't for me.

for sure ! it just give you an idea of the mpc concept with many limitations and i think the luck of the 1000 is to have the JJ os !
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By Coz Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:12 pm
The 1k was too small for me... and I'm far too old to be hunched over gear these days! A tilt screen is essential for how I like to work. 8)
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By Ill-Green Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:54 pm
People roast the 500 but mostly they're people who come from software. But if you came from hardware then the 500 is no different than what was available back in the hardware days. In fact, the 500 is like a dream compared to back in the days. Small but way powerful than the 2000XL thats for sure. Besides chopping by ear is more precise than waveform editing, just adjust the numbers until that sound is on point when you hit a pad.
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By jibber Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:45 pm
I don't agree on the 2kxl statement. The 500 is great and i sure love mine, but a nice 2kxl with CF card reader beats the shit out of an MPC500 any day. :lol:
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By Ill-Green Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:34 pm
jibber wrote:I don't agree on the 2kxl statement. The 500 is great and i sure love mine, but a nice 2kxl with CF card reader beats the shit out of an MPC500 any day. :lol:


Well, let me change your mind :D

MPC500 16MB stock, 128MB max, 24 programs at a time, USB, ability to layer 4 sounds per pad.

VS

MPC2000XL 4MB stock, 32MB max, 4 programs at a time...well thats it.

I think the 500 is more powerful in the tech department is what I meant, but the 2000XL is more easy to use and plenty fun with samples no doubt.
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By jibber Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:55 pm
Well, basically i would never talk bad about the 500. As i said, i love that thing (because it's what i started with, and what made me fall in love with making beats... and i made some of my best beats on that thing).

But honestly, compared to full size MPC's it feels limited (and that can indeed spark creativity).

An up to date 2kxl with CF card feels very "modern" to use. You can copy files to the card from PC and load them in the MPC, with a card reader for your pc it's less hassle than connecting the 500 via USB cable (IMO). Plus 32MB sample memory is WAY more than you'll ever need (again, in my opinion).

Once you have 8 individual outs installed as well and have them connected to a mixing board, the 500 really feels like a toy in comparison.

The workflow of the 2kxl alone is a million times better. Then comes step edit and all that stuff which is a pain in the ass on the screen of the 500. Let's not even get started about the pads... :lol:

Trimming samples by numbers is what i prefer too, but who said you'd have to look at the waveform in the 2kxl... i simply don't look at the screen and still trim by ear.

The only thing that is really missing in the 2kxl is the mute group function (which can spark creativity as well, so it's not a bad thing actually). And even taking that into consideration, the solid workflow and features of a fully updated 2kxl are still on another level in my opinion.

Blabla... sorry, i didn't want to turn this into an MPC comparison thread.
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By mr_debauch Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:50 pm
my gripe with the 500 is nothing to do with features and capabilities... it's the menu surfing you gotta do... but that is a workflow issue for me. I like the dedicated buttons the other models have... also, the pads is kind of a weak area compared to the ful sized pads. lastly, I wish there was a better screen because it would have opened the door for "open window" type menus rather than using shift keys along with every other button on the machine.

yes it's got a lot of punch in a small box... but it comes off a bit tedious...