Getting 'Grimy' Drums on the 500?

Hey guys, I'm wondering what filters/effects you guys use on the 500 to give your drums that grimy sound? Been playing around with filters and can't seem to get the sound I'm after. Thanks in advance!

Pitch your drum sample up an octave and resample it. When you pitch the new sample back down an octave... the grime happens....

Riggs wrote:Pitch your drum sample up an octave and resample it. When you pitch the new sample back down an octave... the grime happens....

that's good advice. the bitgrunger works alright at it's lowest level to dirty up the sound. not really much else you can do with the built-in effects to help, though, as far as I know. sometimes i'll layer my snares, kicks, etc and just pitch down one of the layers slightly.

Grimey is, what grimey does. If you aint grimey for real or Mr. Clean for fake, then you'll never have grimey drums.

yo yo!

so theres a few ways....

starting from step one - getting the drums, if your sampling them off vinyl, obviously just adjust the treble/bass etc on the mixer..

second, there is effects 1(fxt1) and effects 2 (fx2)
theres a couple i would use, theres an effect called eq...and mess around with that alot until you hear something you like

next you can pitch it down instead of the 0.00, try making the speed of the drum -1.00 etc...then toggle with the main filters in mode-program

thennnnn you could go to mode-effects, and go all the way to the right, where there is an EQ, and COMP setting, mess around with those alot and you might like what you hear depending on how much time you take on it.

basically, a smart mixture and application of ALL of these would work best

hope i helped. pz!

I wudnt eq to make drums grimey. Sample dirty sounding drums. Sample at 45, pitch down.
Eq helps but not in grminess too much

Sp or a s9 sumthin wud do it for u

speed up the sample before sampling even more than from 33 to 45. If your turntable can run on 78 use this, if not speed up the record with your hand without the motor running.

A more conrolled way than manual speed up is this

1. Record the sample to a DAW/Editor on normal speed (or load it if you dont reecord from an external device)

2. Change samplerate of the file to the highest setting

3. Pitch up the sample 3 or 4 octaves

4 use an EQ and raise the frequcncies on the top end (since the sample has now a much higher samplerate the top end shoud be something around 80kHz and 90kHz, yes I mean 80000 and 90000 Hz no joke.) raise all the stuff from 40kHz to top end to something like +12 or more dB. If the sample is overdriven after the EQ lower the volume before EQing.

5. sample this to the 500 and pitch it down 3 octaves.

6 post the result here

peace

thanks so much for all the tips dudes! I'm pretty new to producing so some stuff was above my head, but I will definitely try pitching the sample up then back down once I've thrown 'er onto the mpc! this forum rocks

sample a warm hiss sound and lay it over the top of ur drums barley noticeable...bam..grime..

inflict3 wrote:sample a warm hiss sound and lay it over the top of ur drums barley noticeable...bam..grime..

or to add to that idea (which i've never tried) you could record it to a cassette deck and play the result back into the mpc and rechop the drums.

The secret is to pitch up maximum. Pitch up what? The sample you stupid bastard. Pitch it up, then resample. You follow me here? Resample what you just pitched up then pitch down all the way down to minus **** twenty four and shit right. And resample that one more time and bam. You read that the **** right, BAM! You little tree monster from narnia.

LOL

yo ill. i tried ur tip, ive never actually sped something all the way up and resampled it internally, shit dampens down the highs, kinda like a lp filter a lil, weird!! so what takes place when this happens?? i used a really good quality drum loop too, and it raped the shit outta it

inflict3 wrote:yo ill. i tried ur tip, ive never actually sped something all the way up and resampled it internally, shit dampens down the highs, kinda like a lp filter a lil, weird!! so what takes place when this happens?? i used a really good quality drum loop too, and it raped the shit outta it

is that the good kind of rape or the bad kind?