Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
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By DPM Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:13 am
Okay, Lampdog told me how to do this awhile back and I tried what he said and it worked, but now its not. IDK WHY!!

I made a seq with 3 tracks:
TR1:Drums
TR2:Snares
TR3:Hats


I then copied that seq to seq 2 and added an extra track, track 4.
TR1:Drums
TR2:Snares
TR3:Hats

TR4:Bassline

Then, I copied seq 2 (directly above) to seq 3 and muted TR4, so that I could play my 2nd bassline on a new track, 5.
TR1:Drums
TR2:Snares
TR3:Hats

TR4:Bassline (Muted)
TR5:Bassline2


Now, do I have to go back to seq 1 and rename TR4 Bassline and TR5 Bassline 2? Then go to seq 2 and rename TR5 Bassline 2, so then all three seq's will all have 5 tracks with the same names? For the life of me, I cannot get song mode down! What is an easier way to do this? If not, just explain it to me once more, and I'll try my ass off to understand..lol. But Seriously!

Thanks!
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By That-1-DJ Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:28 am
Do you have your manual. I just realized that you have the MPC500, I don't know nothing about the 500 all I can say is read the manual, GOOD LUCK
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By DPM Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:45 am
yea, i read it like 4 times.

On page 51, at the bottom, theres a note box that says: When you convert a song, the specific settings used in each track within the sequence, such as track type, midi channel setting, selection of the program, etc, will be set to the values from the sequence in the first step of the orginal song. If the track settings of sequences in other steps are different from those in the step 1, the song may not be converted properly.

So doesnt that mean that when I create new tracks such as the two basslines and name them bassline and bassline2 (as stated above) on seq 2 and 3, I have to go back to my original seq (seq 1) and rename TR4 and TR5, bassline and bassline2? but if i only went back and renamed TR4 and TR5 on my original seq, there still wouldnt be anything recorded on TR4 or TR5, because all that I have on my original seq is my first three tracks.
AHHHH!
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:26 am
All settings are read from the very first sequence in song mode.

It worked before because you did exactly what I told you.

This time, you said you created extra tracks later on and copied some stuff in
other places (imo that's where you fukd up).

You deviated from the original plan.

Create all tracks you need in Seq1.

Name them all perfectly.

Copy SEQ1 as many times as you need to create the other sequences.

Chain them all together in Song Mode. Like the manual says, ONLY the tracks settings for the VERY FIRST SEQ in song mode will be used, all other following sequences, are at the mercy of that FIRST sequence track settings.

That's the reason why in the first place you made SEQ1 and all the tracks perfect right from jump.
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By DPM Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:58 am
ok name them all in the first sequence. aight, well if i wanted drums, snares, hat, and a bassline. thats 4 tracks. On seq1, i would name the 1st four tracks drums, snares, hats, bassline. and after i copied the sequences and have them playing correctly in song mode, i decided that i wanted to add a piano track, how would i add the piano track (which would be TR5)?
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:28 am
That piano track/settings should be present in first seq1 for it to follow along all the way through the chained song..

You decided you wanted piano in another seq#? Copy that piano track5 seq#? to seq1 trk5 and mute it wherever you want after that.
By brazeca Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:23 pm
DPM, the best way to do what you are trying to do is to create create a loop which would be the apogee for your song arrangement (let's say, its busiest part) and then copy the sequence with this loop various times and strip down elements from it by either muting tracks, or deleting note events from tracks in each of the copied sequences. This way, you will have all track settings (program assignment, name, MIDI channel, etc.) consistent throughout all these sequences. Then you can easily build up your song and/or re-build it when needed simply by rearranging the order of sequences.
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By Lampdog Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:09 pm
brazeca wrote:DPM, the best way to do what you are trying to do is to create create a loop which would be the apogee for your song arrangement (let's say, its busiest part) and then copy the sequence with this loop various times and strip down elements from it by either muting tracks, or deleting note events from tracks in each of the copied sequences. This way, you will have all track settings (program assignment, name, MIDI channel, etc.) consistent throughout all these sequences. Then you can easily build up your song and/or re-build it when needed simply by rearranging the order of sequences.


Exactly what I described in many threads many other times.... :D