Reviews and questions about the entry-level MPC500
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By diggin24seven Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:36 pm
so i just got the 32gb compact flash and i'm loading samples in there right now but the problem is, i don't have enough samples to put in my mpc to test the full capacity lol. could you all contribute some samples for me to put into the mpc? so far i got like 1.5gb of samples in there but i need at least 3 gig more to test. you dont haev to give me your hottest shit, just some samples to see if you can actually use mroe than a 4gb compact flash in your mpc.
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By diggin24seven Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:28 am
goddamn dudes i been loading samples since i started this thread in the morning and i only managed to get 2.5 gigs on there and it's 9:25pm here now lol goddam the sh!t is so slow. so i just messed around with the mpc real quick just now cause i was curious, but at 2.5gb full, all the samples seem to be functional and working properly, so you can def fit more than 2gb, now once i pass the 4gb mark we will kno for sure.
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By diggin24seven Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:44 pm
so at 4.2gb full the samples seem to be working fine. i don't see why akai said that 2gb was the maximum capacity. but anyways, hopefully it wont crash on me one day when i'm workin on something lol.
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By diggin24seven Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:10 pm
so i called akai tech support and told them my situation and they said that i may run into some problems in the future with anything higher than the recommended type ii 2gb compact flash card, so it really made me skeptical about using the 32gb card. i mean i'm pretty sure akai knows what they're talking about but then again some people on here are running 4gb with no problems. i don't know wut to think anymore. if anything, i think i'm just gonna downgrade to a 4gb card just to be on the safe side.
By bedouin Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:33 pm
All I can tell you is this dude, and this comes from my rudimentary understanding of file systems.

You have any piece of media right? Hard drive. Whatever. The capacity of that media is determined by two or three things: the filesystem (FAT16 has like a 2gb celling I think; I don't remember FAT32s -- but it's higher than 32gb obviously). Second, it's based on the physical media and its inherent capacity. Third, there can be limitations on the drive interface itself. For example, some chipsets in firewire drives max out at around 120gb; you can stick a 500gb in it, for example, but it's only going to see 120gb -- and subsequently it will only format 120gb of that 500.

Now, at some point Akai switched their filesytem from FAT16 to FAT32 I believe. That would explain the 2gb limit and why it's stated as so in the documentation. If you want to verify whether I'm right about this perhaps you can rollback to the first OS. In fact, I just put the 128mb Sound Library CF card into my Mac to see how it was formatted: it's FAT16. So Akai did that for some reason -- most likely because their earlier OS only supported FAT16.

Now, if you stick a 32gb flash card into an OS that only supports FAT16 -- it will format it, but it can only access 2gb of it. Make sense?

At some point Akai added FAT32 support to the MPC 500, which is why when I stick my 4gb flash card into it and format -- it shows up as FAT32 on my Mac. That's also why it can read the full 4gb.

What I'm saying is this pretty much -- if the 500 weren't able to handle 32gb, it wouldn't format the full 32gb -- it would only format what it can physically access. If the 500 understands FAT32 that's just the end of it for me. And if the chipset can't see the entire capacity, it simply wouldn't format it.

Akai is just like any other company. They have a list of questions and they base their responses on whatever Akai tells them to reply. If they break that they get into trouble.

Until someone can prove to me otherwise I'm going to say the maximum size flash card you can use in an MPC 500 is potentially 2 terabytes the maximum size of a FAT32 volume.
By Bremen Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:50 am
bedouin wrote:All I can tell you is this dude, and this comes from my rudimentary understanding of file systems.

You have any piece of media right? Hard drive. Whatever. The capacity of that media is determined by two or three things: the filesystem (FAT16 has like a 2gb celling I think; I don't remember FAT32s -- but it's higher than 32gb obviously). Second, it's based on the physical media and its inherent capacity. Third, there can be limitations on the drive interface itself. For example, some chipsets in firewire drives max out at around 120gb; you can stick a 500gb in it, for example, but it's only going to see 120gb -- and subsequently it will only format 120gb of that 500.

Now, at some point Akai switched their filesytem from FAT16 to FAT32 I believe. That would explain the 2gb limit and why it's stated as so in the documentation. If you want to verify whether I'm right about this perhaps you can rollback to the first OS. In fact, I just put the 128mb Sound Library CF card into my Mac to see how it was formatted: it's FAT16. So Akai did that for some reason -- most likely because their earlier OS only supported FAT16.

Now, if you stick a 32gb flash card into an OS that only supports FAT16 -- it will format it, but it can only access 2gb of it. Make sense?

At some point Akai added FAT32 support to the MPC 500, which is why when I stick my 4gb flash card into it and format -- it shows up as FAT32 on my Mac. That's also why it can read the full 4gb.

What I'm saying is this pretty much -- if the 500 weren't able to handle 32gb, it wouldn't format the full 32gb -- it would only format what it can physically access. If the 500 understands FAT32 that's just the end of it for me. And if the chipset can't see the entire capacity, it simply wouldn't format it.

Akai is just like any other company. They have a list of questions and they base their responses on whatever Akai tells them to reply. If they break that they get into trouble.

Until someone can prove to me otherwise I'm going to say the maximum size flash card you can use in an MPC 500 is potentially 2 terabytes the maximum size of a FAT32 volume.


I have limited knowledge on your subject matter.... but you make sense.... :)
Had my 500 1 day, have 2 gig card, and already lusting for more.....
By hermitpez Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:52 pm
Old post, so I hope someone replies!

Any update on the 32gb card? I contacted Akai and was fobbed off with 256mb being the maximum, I assume he is confused even though I stated CF card :x
I would like to know what the max people have got working as I could do with more for my gigs and preferably on one card rather than having to buy multiple cards and having to load between tracks.