about to buy a 5000: need some verification..!

I'd say this... whatever equipment is right for you, may not be right for others, and everyone has an equal right to an opinion (it's all purely subjective).

The only opinion that counts about the equipment I use to make music is my own - the rest is merely background chatter - which I'll give respect to if it's constructive, but a lot of the time I completely ignore the 'mines is better than yours' mentality, because that's just a waste of everyones time.

Personally I love the 5K and think that it's the best MPC currently available (for me!) - I've owned other MPCs including the 2500 with JJOS

A lot of posts I read on this forum are by people who definately don't bother reading manuals - then post a 'This shit is broken!' post when they can't work something out, see that just clouds things and again doesn't add any value to other forum members.

As far back as I can remember on the 5K thread, there's always some who spend a lot of time here trying to convince others that 'the 5K doesn't do this' or 'the 2500 does this better with JJ'.

I guess,that's what Diego was getting at... ...it's like me jumping onto the MPC2500 thread and posting a 'MPC5000 ROCKS GUYS!!!!' post on every second thread, it doesn't really add any value to anyone - feeling me?

It's ALL good though, keep banging those pads guys, whatever MPC you own.

Keep it real!!

I think the reason akai giving the mpc5k the name mpc5k and not the mpc3500. Is cause the mpc5k is nothing more than the mpc2500 with more knobs, buttons and faders with a bigger display and a synth. I never own a mpc2500, but reading thru both the mpc5k and the mpc2500 manual. The os seem damn near the same, only the mpc5k has a few very minor features. Which the mpc2500 might have now and is more reliable with JJ os.

My opinion that ranks the mpc2500 over the mpc5k. At least the guys with mpc2500 has support from a third party developer for new reliable os with new features. As a matter of fact I bet akai is proud to know JJ is releasing new os for mpc2500. JJ has help akai sell more units and JJ has taking the responsibilty of akai to release update for the unit. You notice akai is not trying to find JJ to sue him for selling os for their patented product.

I believe if akai could release the mpc5k os code to JJ without someone finding it out and leaking it all over the net, which kind of make akai look bad. I believe akai will do and all mpc5k owners will be as happy as the mpc2500 owners. There will be a flood mpc4k on ebay, now that the mpc5k is stable and there is now chances of future updates.

I own a mpc2k once and twice I became a victim of having the latest mpc. I now have the mpc4k that took forever to get a stable os and now I am in the waitng game again with mpc5k. That's it for me. I'm not buying anymore mpcs.

I'm not stepping on the mpc5k. I really like it, when it's working right. I used my mpc4k last week and I now prefer to use my mpc5k over the mpc4k, after using it for a year. Plus I feel the mpc5k sound warmer and punchier. Mpc4k sounds sterille when using the same samples before tweaking. I felt that way when I first got the mpc4k, when I had the mpc2k.

I use to fool around with the mpc2500 at my local guitar center and I almost brought it, until I saw the mpc5k. If I knew, what I know now. I would buy the mpc2500 and JJ os. Sell my mpc4k and be happy.

all you guys make good points.. And I completely agree. I hope no one thinks I was bashing the 5000.
And I post anywhere that I have an experienced opinion to give.

Now with that said.. let me just say.. if akai DID give JJ the code for the 5000, and a JJOS was available for the 5000 shortly thereafter.. I would more than likely make the switch.

like elite said tho, it really depends on what kind of user u are.. if u are a "dont read the manual and sell ur mpc when times get a lil rough and its no biggie" kinda user. then the akai os is probably just fine for u..


but if Ur a "know everything that all the os's do and love nyms vids on youtube and dont even need the manual"
kinda user..
then u can probably relate.

It just depends on what works for u. For me, sure there are features in the 5000 I would love to have..
but workflow is top on my list. and the 2500 with JJ has it in droves. If ever there is a time where the 5000 can match that? I AM ALL OVER IT!!!

short post, about time for one

akai should take the foot out their ass and hire JJ back. The man obviously knows what he is doing more than anyone else in that company.

ritec wrote:akai should take the foot out their ass and hire JJ back. The man obviously knows what he is doing more than anyone else in that company.

is there any real verification that JJ actually worked for akai?

I always thought so from what I have read here and other places online..

But I was looking at the JJos1 manual that Stan Steez pretty much put together, i believe with support from JJ, and in page 6 he says

About JJ
"Well, JJ basically stands for Japanese Jenius,and was coined by Nym1 of mpc-forums.com. Not much is known about this japanese jenius who is responsible for creating the JJ OS, except that he has no ties to AKAI. Although his identity remains unknown, it's clear that his OS is in fact an outstanding piece of software, providing many long-awaited and unexpected features."

So does anyone no FOR SURE which is true.. I would tend to believe that Stan Steez is right considering he must have had direct contact with JJ himself to work out the details in the creation of the manual maybe. Even then with a language barrier.. who knows.

I have wondered this for a while.

Well I have no idea haha but regardless they really should hire him.

I was just thinking. JJ has the code for the mpc1000 and mpc2500, which the os seem very similar. Also the mpc2500 and the mpc5k os look damn near the same. Even the hardware looks close.

I bet JJ is working out a way to get the mpc2500's os code to work on the mpc5k or some how the mpc5k code is going to get in JJ's hand. You talking about a real turn out if JJ do for the mpc5k, what he done for mpc2500 and mpc1k.

Heavie wrote: You talking about a real turn out if JJ do for the mpc5k, what he done for mpc2500 and mpc1k.

yup, and the entire mpc2500 and mpc1000 forums over here talking about how it sux.

it would be amazing if that happens!


yeah but I was thinking about the mpc workflow last night while working on my live PA and realized it can be heavily optimized. for example, when you save a program the machine needs to prepare a view... when in reality you are just seeing the same thing, so why prepare a the same view?

I don't know, maybe it's more complex than that but it does nto make much sense to me.

diegoeskryptic wrote:

Heavie wrote: You talking about a real turn out if JJ do for the mpc5k, what he done for mpc2500 and mpc1k.

yup, and the entire mpc2500 and mpc1000 forums over here talking about how it sux.

well yeah.. but the idea is that it WOULDNT if their was a JJos for it.

my dude owns the 5000 and says the same thing.. so I guess your the exception to the rule and like it just how it is.
thats cool.. no issue with that on my side.

but its verifiable that the mpcs can perform better.. so with that in mind.. why not ?