MPC 5000 OS 2

Blue Haze, from reading your post several times, I can't disagree with anything (except where you imply Akai is not getting it). Maybe we had some wires across but I have been trying to say the same thing. I would need a more powerful MPC to do the same thing I do with software.

And I do want Q-links to control all keygroup and sample program parameters as it does with the Synth programs. But it is no deal breaker for me because this is what I am use to for so many years. Since the Q-links sends MIDI CC messages, you can control parameters of your software and hard instruments. If I am understanding your correctly, it seems you want the MPC 5K to receive MIDI CC commands to control its synth and sampler. Is this correct? If so, I can't recall much talk about this function even in the MPC 4000 Forum.

To answer your question, you can tweak keygroups while the sequencer plays like you can do with any type of program. You can freely jump to nearly all modes and adjust all parameters while the sequence runs..a key feature of the MPC 5000 as well as other newer MPCs.

As far a Rock On, I have done business with them for years..both new and used gear. I usally check their website everyday for used gear. I even purchased two or three MPC 2500s from them when they were first released. I am glad they moved to a bigger place. Initially I wasn't going to Akihabara but since Rock On was closed, I had to make the trip.

Blue Haze, from reading your post several times, I can't disagree with anything (except where you imply Akai is not getting it). Maybe we had some wires across but I have been trying to say the same thing. I would need a more powerful MPC to do the same thing I do with software.

Absolutely. What I meant with akai was leaving out keygroups in the first and that not all sampling music isn`t all one shots and phrases. Most djs turned producers didn`t buy the rack samplers for the commerical libraries they sampled all that I stated before to be fresh. Coke bottles anyone for percussion ha, ha.

And I do want Q-links to control all keygroup and sample program parameters as it does with the Synth programs. But it is no deal breaker for me because this is what I am use to for so many years. Since the Q-links sends MIDI CC messages, you can control parameters of your software and hard instruments. If I am understanding your correctly, it seems you want the MPC 5K to receive MIDI CC commands to control its synth and sampler. Is this correct? If so, I can't recall much talk about this function even in the MPC 4000 Forum.

Right again we want to control the mpc 5k just like we can with software via midi learn that way as simple as a filter sweep live via a knob or controller or as complex as controlling 4 instruments fading out one layer instrument into another morphing the sounds. You can do this in a way via velocity but real-time is via a knob is more hands on. On the 4k forum we already have this. It is what we mean by all the talk of program modulation matrix. All full samplers including the software samplers do this.

To answer your question, you can tweak keygroups while the sequencer plays like you can do with any type of program. You can freely jump to nearly all modes and adjust all parameters while the sequence runs..a key feature of the MPC 5000 as well as other newer MPCs.

Alright but I meant to be free of the data wheel while do it. That way I`m on the main page changing parts via measures you know chorus, verse and etc.

As far a Rock On, I have done business with them for years..both new and used gear. I usally check their website everyday for used gear. I even purchased two or three MPC 2500s from them when they were first released. I am glad they moved to a bigger place. Initially I wasn't going to Akihabara but since Rock On was closed, I had to make the trip.

I get ya. I haven`t hit Akiharbara in yrs. I used to get duty free exported goods but I switch to apple and my bilingual computing problems were solved. Yeah that sunday schedule by Rock on sucks but I get them to ship the items I buy straight to my place. I check what I want at the local ishibashi music or when I`m record shopping at disk union and call my contact and bam it at my home the next day. But I know you are into hardware more than I so you want to feel the keys first yeah.

Well, you know where I stand with keygroups in an MPC. I will need much more memory, a more powerful CPU, and faster hard drive access before I use any drum machine for keygroup samples (this includes the MV-8800, MPC 4000/5000). I don't even use my Fantom G for loading keygroups. But really, it is great that they are there. Now, I want to hear music created with the keygroups from all the people that claimed they couldn't live without them in their MPC

Askia Shaheed wrote:Well, you know where I stand with keygroups in an MPC. I will need much more memory, a more powerful CPU, and faster hard drive access before I use any drum machine for keygroup samples (this includes the MV-8800, MPC 4000/5000). I don't even use my Fantom G for loading keygroups. But really, it is great that they are there. Now, I want to hear music created with the keygroups from all the people that claimed they couldn't live without them in their MPC

Jah we just had a battle and the instruments I used were from keygroups.

But there are plenty of songs on check most of productions of the people I named before. Though on the radio now snap music rules so you have to dig the records again and the underground club stuff.


Remember it is as simple as you and I go crunching a coke can, trim it, assign to the keygroup program and play it back for a
melody if you wish. Loop it if you want to layer it over other traditional instruments to create something personal.

For you dj premier`s work with the string sample, bass note, and the vocal gip, gip with S9050 keygroup sampler, midi controller and the MPC 60 sequencing you can work it out on 16 levels too. Rza would go lower or higher on the scale with his production. But this is spare dope production. Alot of other guys do alot of more advance stuff you got to use the ears though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl_vSLMx0aw


Rza a two bar phrase piano loop playing with a violin note in a keygroup sampled over it , horn, kick drum pitch down from the keygroup, voice sample over the keygroup range and so on and so on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDRM2Np ... re=related

Massive attack using that bass note on keygroup sampler, drum loop pitch down via keygroup of course it can do the same via tuning but far easier to find hit a key, alot of live instruments though great djs and musicians but building around the phrase sample with a full sampler. Though you got to use your ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygw2zmEV ... gw2zmEVsvc

Blue Haze wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:Well, you know where I stand with keygroups in an MPC. I will need much more memory, a more powerful CPU, and faster hard drive access before I use any drum machine for keygroup samples (this includes the MV-8800, MPC 4000/5000). I don't even use my Fantom G for loading keygroups. But really, it is great that they are there. Now, I want to hear music created with the keygroups from all the people that claimed they couldn't live without them in their MPC

Jah we just had a battle and the instruments I used were from keygroups.

But there are plenty of songs on check most of productions of the people I named before. Though on the radio now snap music rules so you have to dig the records again and the underground club stuff.


Remember it is as simple as you and I go crunching a coke can, trim it, assign to the keygroup program and play it back for a
melody if you wish. Loop it if you want to layer it over other traditional instruments to create something personal.

For you dj premier`s work with the string sample, bass note, and the vocal gip, gip with S9050 keygroup sampler, midi controller and the MPC 60 sequencing you can work it out on 16 levels too. Rza would go lower or higher on the scale with his production. But this is spare dope production. Alot of other guys do alot of more advance stuff you got to use the ears though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl_vSLMx0aw

No...we didn't have a battle Go back and re-read my post. It went completely over your heads....

But I am talking about MPC 5000 forum members using their keygroup programs onboard their MPCs...not to prove any point I just want to hear something from this often requested feature.

The producers I listen to today (no..not the snap music producers) don't use keygroup programs on an MPC....which until recently was only the MPC 4000.

Askia Shaheed wrote:But I am talking about MPC 5000 forum members using their keygroup programs onboard their MPCs...not to prove any point I just want to hear something from this often requested feature.

Not sure if you will like my music...

No...we didn't have a battle Go back and re-read my post. It went completely over your heads...

Really ha, ha,ha I don`t want to have to go there back to the call out thread but that is water under the bridge thanks for the call though I finally put my joints online and got alot of good feedback.

But I am talking about MPC 5000 forum members using their keygroup programs onboard their MPCs...not to prove any point I just want to hear something from this often requested feature.

Alot of joints use full samplers to make instruments nothing new. Only the full samplers have moved onto computers and the hardware units still left were mainly phrase/drum samplers.

The producers I listen to today (no..not the snap music producers) don't use keygroup programs on an MPC....which until recently was only the MPC 4000.

Ahhl but they do to come up with custom sounds like I said you can make an instrument out of anything like coke bottles if you wish. But all of the southern hip hop I hate to say it are all so called sample free even though they are using motif and all. But they are either sampling a phrase or no sampling from outside at all just the presets in the keyboard of the moments. Alot of the current hot sound in hip hop is southern hip hop style You can`t run from Soulja boy you know. But like I said that is all good if you have chops like Hancock, Posnyer, Isleys, Whitehead and all the other musicians that put it down. There is a tremendous difference between a Herbie and Soulja on the same triton or motif playing. Actually alot of house producers really do put down some soulful chords and melodies check them out Victor Duplexau and alot of others.

Music is still music. Sampling is the shit though for finding new sounds in my book though. But melody, harmony, and rhythm is paramount to keep from train wrecking or just making up plain noise we would both agree.

Thats whats up Blue Hazed... I learned a lil somethin from that Post... Thats why I f..ck with this forum, to learn and help wit da BS aside

Blue Haze: as betatester I just HAD to investigate... What is that avatar animal listening too? It's swinging exactly 120 BPM so that must be some boring tune!

scd wrote:Blue Haze: as betatester I just HAD to investigate... What is that avatar animal listening too? It's swinging exactly 120 BPM so that must be some boring tune!

Don't hate the player, hate the game, ha, ha he is djing in the any
remix that has soulful sounds. By the way where is your avater the akai
logo??

Hello,

yes many of the new features have been written in directly from great feedback from end users and you know what....from this forum!

Please be assured we DO listen and watch even if we don't spend hours posting info.

Hope you like the new OS2

Regards

Jon@akai

jon@akai wrote:Hello,

yes many of the new features have been written in directly from great feedback from end users and you know what....from this forum!

Please be assured we DO listen and watch even if we don't spend hours posting info.

Hope you like the new OS2

Regards

Jon@akai

Great to see you in the forum and posting up jon@akai. Great work, though since you are actually posting on the board (lucky you) you may want to announce your present here also especially concerning new features.
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=110760


I wish you the best.

jon@akai wrote:Hello,

yes many of the new features have been written in directly from great feedback from end users and you know what....from this forum!

Please be assured we DO listen and watch even if we don't spend hours posting info.

Hope you like the new OS2

Regards

Jon@akai

yea, nice work... I havent been able to complain about problems from the few times lately i have gotten to work with it...

I just wanted to post and say OS 2.0 is 100X better than 1.02. They really did a great job. Before my MPC was laggy and would drag when loading or saving. Now it flies through the files. I love all the new features and haven't even messed with all of them yet. Stellar job Akai, Stellar job.

Blue Haze wrote:
Jah we just had a battle and the instruments I used were from keygroups.

I'd like to hear the beats. Where are the links to the beats that you guys used for the battle?