5K is a winner.

4dahaterz wrote:

UBANKRECORDS wrote:I don't understand everyone putting akai down when your a member of the mpc-forums?

The MPC is the best invention since the microwave IMO. EVERY sampler will have it's cons and bugs. You must look at the big picture. Akai has provided me with an extraordinary piece of equipment that is now the brain of my studio. If you hate akai so much why don't you join a Roland forum or something. Not being a dick I'm just confused about all the trash talk towards Akai.

well, IMO... i think most of us that have been with AKAI MPC Brand since the 90's would have kinda expected a breakthrough further then what is provided in the current MPC's, considering there are other and better alternatives to some. But anyway... this would start a whole new convo

Word, I feel ya. I just have madd respect for akai. They have built one of the best(the best IMO)samplers ever. I'm just so thankful to the company for helping me build hits. It's like they read my mind and created a machine that was perfect for me. Anyway, I respect everybody's opinion but you gotta respect akai for even inventing the MPC. I love the 5k, yeah it has its bugs, but just like the 4000 they will keep updating it and even add new shit. So don't stress. Work with what you got. Be happy.

Respect,
U-Bank Records

4dahaterz wrote:

UBANKRECORDS wrote:I don't understand everyone putting akai down when your a member of the mpc-forums?

The MPC is the best invention since the microwave IMO. EVERY sampler will have it's cons and bugs. You must look at the big picture. Akai has provided me with an extraordinary piece of equipment that is now the brain of my studio. If you hate akai so much why don't you join a Roland forum or something. Not being a dick I'm just confused about all the trash talk towards Akai.

well, IMO... i think most of us that have been with AKAI MPC Brand since the 90's would have kinda expected a breakthrough further then what is provided in the current MPC's, considering there are other and better alternatives to some. But anyway... this would start a whole new convo

I wanted an MPC in 1992 before I even knew exactly what it was. I heard Redman talk about how the MPC 60 was used to create his first CD. However, I had no idea what an MPC 60 was or where to get one. Fast-forward to 1997, I found a Musician's Friend Catalog advertising the MPC 2000. In the advertisement, it briefly mentioned the MPC 3000, which I didn't know existed. I called MF asking about the 3000 but was told that are not made anymore. So I bought an MPC 2000 which started my love affair with MPCs. Since then, I owned every highend MPC that was released. I even owned the MPC 3000LE. From my perspective, the MPC line has advanced so much. I have to disagree and state that there are no hardware alternatives to an MPC with the exception of the MV. I don't feel a need to debate which is best, but I am obviously a huge fan of the 5K. For anyone that doesn't like it..don't buy it. If you want an MPC 5K but what it do to more, simply join in our feature request threads. Hopefully, that info will make its way to Akai and you will see the MPC progress until it meets your needs.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:

UBANKRECORDS wrote:I don't understand everyone putting akai down when your a member of the mpc-forums?

The MPC is the best invention since the microwave IMO. EVERY sampler will have it's cons and bugs. You must look at the big picture. Akai has provided me with an extraordinary piece of equipment that is now the brain of my studio. If you hate akai so much why don't you join a Roland forum or something. Not being a dick I'm just confused about all the trash talk towards Akai.

well, IMO... i think most of us that have been with AKAI MPC Brand since the 90's would have kinda expected a breakthrough further then what is provided in the current MPC's, considering there are other and better alternatives to some. But anyway... this would start a whole new convo

I wanted an MPC in 1992 before I even knew exactly what it was. I heard Redman talk about how the MPC 60 was used to create his first CD. However, I had no idea what an MPC 60 was or where to get one. Fast-forward to 1997, I found a Musician's Friend Catalog advertising the MPC 2000. In the advertisement, it briefly mentioned the MPC 3000, which I didn't know existed. I called MF asking about the 3000 but was told that are not made anymore. So I bought an MPC 2000 which started my love affair with MPCs. Since then, I owned every highend MPC that was released. I even owned the MPC 3000LE. From my perspective, the MPC line has advanced so much. I have to disagree and state that there are no hardware alternatives to an MPC with the exception of the MV. I don't feel a need to debate which is best, but I am obviously a huge fan of the 5K. For anyone that doesn't like it..don't buy it. If you want an MPC 5K but what it do to more, simply join in our feature request threads. Hopefully, that info will make its way to Akai and you will see the MPC progress until it meets your needs.

Word, but to look at things from the perspective of some people who are disapointed with the 5k... yeah it is true that they should be happy with what they got and work with what's in front of them... however I think the issue is that they dont want to just settle when they spent so much money.

Word, but to look at things from the perspective of some people who are disapointed with the 5k... yeah it is true that they should be happy with what they got and work with what's in front of them... however I think the issue is that they dont want to just settle when they spent so much money.

If I were to look from the perspective of some people who are disappointed with the 5K, I would not buy the MPC nor would I care to spend any time in this forum discussing it. I wouldn't spend $2000 just to be able to say I own the new MPC.

Akai released an MPC with a specific feature set. This info was available months before it was available in stores. You buy the product if it meets your needs based upon the specs and feature set. You don't buy the product and then complain that it doesn't have certain features that were never advertised. You can respectfully submit user requests for certain features. But Akai is not obligated to honor every request users make. Even without an OS update, the 5K is as cheap and more feature packed than any other highend MPC in the past.

Akai released an MPC with a specific feature set. This info was available months before it was available in stores. You buy the product if it meets your needs based upon the specs and feature set. You don't buy the product and then complain that it doesn't have certain features that were never advertised. You can respectfully submit user requests for certain features. But Akai is not obligated to honor every request users make. Even without an OS update, the 5K is as cheap and more feature packed than any other highend MPC in the past.

Amen

4dahaterz wrote:well, IMO... i think most of us that have been with AKAI MPC Brand since the 90's would have kinda expected a breakthrough further then what is provided in the current MPC's, considering there are other and better alternatives to some. But anyway... this would start a whole new convo

True Dat,
Also in the 90's products, (and operating system.) from Akai just worked for the most part bug free. New O.S.'s were for the purpose of new features and functions...
They began to get lazy about getting it right when they were able to update O.S.'s via floppy disk. Ain't nobody here really hatin on Akai, We just want and expect them to do the job that they're reputation was built on.
Akai come tight!!!

Or you can say, Akai got more aggressive and started adding significant features (to the 2000/2000XL) such as modern graphic waveform editing/menus, improved sample editing, multi-effects, track mutes, 4 programs per sequence, compatibility with wav files, etc. The end result was that the newer models are claimed to have more bugs than the earlier ones (MPC 60 and 3000).

Additionally (going back to my previous post) I can cry all I want...but that doesn't mean Roland has to give the Fantom G (new flagship) all the features of the Fantom X. It doesn't mean Digidesign has to give the 003 rack the stand-alone features that 002 rack had. It doesn't mean Steinberg is going to give Nuendo 4 users the music production tools that Nuendo 3 had unless users want to pay an additional $300. You buy a product for what it is advertised to do. But feel free to create a feature request thread to tell Akai what you want in an MPC and maybe some one (whether it is Akai or Roger Linn, himself) will listen.

kneebone77 wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:well, IMO... i think most of us that have been with AKAI MPC Brand since the 90's would have kinda expected a breakthrough further then what is provided in the current MPC's, considering there are other and better alternatives to some. But anyway... this would start a whole new convo

True Dat,
Also in the 90's products, (and operating system.) from Akai just worked for the most part bug free. New O.S.'s were for the purpose of new features and functions...
They began to get lazy about getting it right when they were able to update O.S.'s via floppy disk. Ain't nobody here really hatin on Akai, We just want and expect them to do the job that they're reputation was built on.
Akai come tight!!!

I agree..... 100%

thats how i feel

A lot of peeps dont understand that this isnt even the same Akai that was back then, compared to now, which could be the reason why we arent getting what we deserve

Also in the 90's products, (and operating system.) from Akai just worked for the most part bug free

erm i guess you don t have many of these products ....

I had many bugs with my first akai samplers !!

There s still a lot bugs on the MPC 3000 not solved at this day !

The thing is people are always waiting for more

tomazzzi wrote:

Also in the 90's products, (and operating system.) from Akai just worked for the most part bug free

erm i guess you don t have many of these products ....

I had many bugs with my first akai samplers !!

There s still a lot bugs on the MPC 3000 not solved at this day !

The thing is people are always waiting for more

+1

tomazzzi wrote:erm i guess you don t have many of these products ....

I had many bugs with my first akai samplers !!

There s still a lot bugs on the MPC 3000 not solved at this day !

The thing is people are always waiting for more

Check the resume, these are the various Akai samplers I've owed throughout my lifetime...

MPC 60 mkI
MPC 3000
MPC 2000
MPC 1000
S-612
S-3000i
S-6000

I ain't just whistlin dixie.

So you r used to AKAI products ...i don t understand your statement then...

Like i said before most of the products you owned had as much bugs as the 5000 when they comes out, if not more ....

Just remember OS V 1.0 on your s6000 for ex ... ( freeze, non implemented features etc...)

Every new hardware software or OS needs extentive testing to be free of bug.

It can t be entierely done by AKAI team before they ship the product to customers for the reason there s way too much combinations to try out.

The ony thing we can reproach them is no communication with customers.

But when you see the général agressivity about them i can understand.

I never said I bought all these products new when they first came out.
And 2, I was mostly speaking about Early Akai stuff I.E. MPC-60, 3000, 2000.
I don't know what y'all were doing but I wasn't getting bugs and have only had freeze ups a few times...

P.S. I Put JJ O.S. on the MPC-1000 when I had it. That dude and Rohan are prime examples of why Akai, a company with vastly more resources, should be able to do better then they currently are.
Not only do I think they could better support they're current product line but I think they should also continue support of they're older products. Either that, or make the hardware open source so that these third party programmers can get busy!

2500 with JJOS2 > 5000

Nuff said...

Explicit- wrote:2500 with JJOS2 > 5000

Nuff said...

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