MPC5000 reviews, bug reports and fellow user support on the most recent standalone, hardware MPC from Akai
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:54 am
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YumYumRolex wrote:Damn so you dont know why the 3000 wont play in 16th notes? That really gets my buttons right there, I cant figure it out either, its starting to piss me off because I cant sequence...It wont let me play my drum patterns out because I use 1/16th note patterns I like those sped up high hats and quick hitting kiks...

By the way, this is DJ Skitzophrenik, I cant seem to login on my other account...I forgot my login or my password or something....But thanks for the info OTO!


Hey Skitzo, no, really don't know why that is.. tbh I also don't know much about the settings of the 3K since I never owned one.
But maybe you could sequence from the 5K (like I said I think its' sequencer is great).. so you would have control from the 5K and as a special added bonus the sound of the 3K.

Cheers


ALright so I hooked up the 5000 as the main sequencer, I have the Digi going out to the MPC 5K and the 5K is Midi'd out to the XS Motif...I have the 3000 on the Out C of the 5000 and its controlling the 3000 synced, but I dont know how to control the 3000 drums because the 3000 drums have to be loaded on the machine, it doesnt have the program select like a newer updated 5000...so basically, the 3000 is a naked sequencer, I think I can make the beat on the 3000 and sync it up with the 5000 and the Motif but Im not sure...it gets kind of difficult from there...but it seems that the 3000 is back working again with its groove...I dont know maybe the 3000 cant handle all the stuff hooked up to it, but I kinda understand what you were getting at by using the 5K sequencer...I have more options now...Unlimited Drums, and Samples...and now I have the Digi headphone out going to the MPC Phono In...I can sample directly from ITunes...I dont know I havent tested the new setup yet, but in the morning, I will let you know how its working...Thanks for your input...
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:58 am
Yo Oto...

Here it is updated with the MPC 5000 as the main sequencer

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By otobot Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:59 am
DJ Skitzophrenik wrote:
otobot wrote:
YumYumRolex wrote:Damn so you dont know why the 3000 wont play in 16th notes? That really gets my buttons right there, I cant figure it out either, its starting to piss me off because I cant sequence...It wont let me play my drum patterns out because I use 1/16th note patterns I like those sped up high hats and quick hitting kiks...

By the way, this is DJ Skitzophrenik, I cant seem to login on my other account...I forgot my login or my password or something....But thanks for the info OTO!


Hey Skitzo, no, really don't know why that is.. tbh I also don't know much about the settings of the 3K since I never owned one.
But maybe you could sequence from the 5K (like I said I think its' sequencer is great).. so you would have control from the 5K and as a special added bonus the sound of the 3K.

Cheers


So how would I go about doing that? Chain the Midi out off the Digi to the MPC 5K then out the 5K to the Motif and then out the 5K to the 3K?



Question is, do you want to sync PT with the rest of your setup... then I would do it like this:

Either PT as Master (003 ->MPC 5K) or the MPC 5K as the Master (MPC 5K ->003)
[ like described here: http://www.akaipro.com/syncprotools ]


Then MIDI connections from the MPC 5K out to ->3K and ->Motif.

When the 5K is the Master Sync device, then you could also set the 3K as Slave, so that you could incorporate it as a sequencer rather than just a MIDI sound device.
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By otobot Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:27 am
Ah ok, didn't see that you already had set it up while I was describing it.

Looking good! If you want to use the 3K as a sequencer for its' own programs in that setup, I'd make the 5K the Master to the 003 and the 3K and plain MIDI out to the Motif from the 5K. So starting the 5K will start the 3K and Pro Tools.
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:25 pm
otobot wrote:Ah ok, didn't see that you already had set it up while I was describing it.

Looking good! If you want to use the 3K as a sequencer for its' own programs in that setup, I'd make the 5K the Master to the 003 and the 3K and plain MIDI out to the Motif from the 5K. So starting the 5K will start the 3K and Pro Tools.



Nah I dont want it setup that way, I want the Pro Tools to be the Master, I want to make the beat and then track it to pro tools and arrange it from there, but now the problem is seeing if I can adjust to the 5000 sequencer...so which one should I follow? The setting Pro Tools as the master? I have a timing issue when Im using hardware not when Im recording or "Tracking" into Pro Tools...But maybe if I use the settings as described on that webpage you sent...it will correct what Im trying to see is a glitch or not...I hope that makes sense...but why would I want the MPC 5000 to be the master?
By DJ Skitzophrenik Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:42 pm
otobot wrote:Ah ok, didn't see that you already had set it up while I was describing it.

Looking good! If you want to use the 3K as a sequencer for its' own programs in that setup, I'd make the 5K the Master to the 003 and the 3K and plain MIDI out to the Motif from the 5K. So starting the 5K will start the 3K and Pro Tools.


Oto, I love you bro, no Bruno...but I just reread what you said, what were you referring to when you said plain midi out to the Motif and you say midi up the 3K? Like Midi In and Out? I have the 3K plain midi'd up and its sync when I sync C out Because the Digi is on A the Motif is on B hence Midi 1 and 2...I hope that makes sense...It kinda knocks the 3000 out the loop now...before I was controlling the 5000 with the 3000...Now the 3000 is sync'd up to run its sequencer when I press play on the 5000...thats on Midi Out C on the 5000...
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By otobot Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:21 pm
:D

What I meant was the 5K as Master to 003 and 3K. And only plain MIDI to the Motif since you only use the Motif's sounds.

When you set the 003 (thus PT) as Master, it will mess with the 5K's timing. When you set the 5K as Master, it messes with the BPM as shown in PT as far as I remember. But the 5K's and thus 3K's timings stay intact... this whole syncing issue is never 100% perfect and tight due to weak MIDI Clock from computer MIDI interfaces (any computer MIDI interface is weak in this regard).

The best way to have a tight sync is a device called "Innerclock systems Sync-Lock".. when using that you would make the 003 Master which sends an audio stream to the Sync-Lock box which itself sends 100 % stable MIDI Clock signal. AFAIK that also doesn't compromise the MPC's timing since it's a stable clock... but I haven't tested it.. going only by many user experiences I've read.

But eventually I will get me a Sync-Lock since that's the last thing that's missing in my setup... stable sync.
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By psr Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:54 pm
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moved recently this is a temp set up. got a new desk coming that I can have a cleaner presentation and some bass traps (room is boomy). the xv3080 is racked behind the laptop and rme ff400 is racked as well.

otobot dope set up. Is that a plat panel monitor mounted for lyrics near the mic? nice! what type of laptop stand / arm are you using for you laptop?
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By otobot Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:58 pm
psr wrote:moved recently this is a temp set up. got a new desk coming that I can have a cleaner presentation and some bass traps (room is boomy). the xv3080 is racked behind the laptop and rme ff400 is racked as well.

otobot dope set up. Is that a plat panel monitor mounted for lyrics near the mic? nice! what type of laptop stand / arm are you using for you laptop?


Thanks! Nice setup too, PSR!

I had that spare monitor left and mounted it there so I can control Pro Tools from where I record.. placing the locator, starting/stopping/recording, editing, etc... so I don't need to jump from mic to 003 lol.. pretty lazy I know ^^
I can use it for lyrics too..

The laptop stand is this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 3D1&_rdc=1
By DJ Skitzophrenik Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:52 pm
Yo Oto...could I midi out from the Digi to the 3000 and control the 3000?
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By otobot Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:20 am
Sure you could, but I dunno if that would make more sense than controlling the 3K from the 5K. You would have to run the computer everytime you want to run 5K, 3K, Motif.. the 5K has enough MIDI outs, so making it the main sequencer is IMHO best in that scenario.
By DJ Skitzophrenik Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:47 am
Dj-FSC wrote:Nice setup guys. I rock the Mv8k and don't plan on getting rid of it anytime soon. But the Mpc5k is a pretty nice machine. I can respect that.


Post that **** up bro...Im good with the MV myself...matter of fact, whats your icon? is that a MMA slam or a WWE Slam? That shit looked ugly as ****!
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By dabmeister Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:13 pm
You guys have some ill setups.

Artificial, I see you're doing it fo real. 8)