Finally!

dustymaestro wrote:

konc3pt wrote:

Dan L wrote:Most of the people who diss the 5k haven't even used one. There just mad cause they can only buy a used 2000 classic.
I love my 5k and haven't had any problems with it.

I think it's more like the other way around, most people who own 5k never used or tried other mpcs and dont realize they stuck with doo doo so they tell themselfs they love it

I can tell you exactly what I like and dont about each MPC from EXPERIENCE. Actually, I think the 5000 is the most underrated MPC.

Im having trouble recreating bugs that I posted here. lol It's pretty solid champ.

Why would anybody be stuck?

I dunno man, I've toyed with the idea of getting second hand 5k since they're so cheap...but based on peoples experiences here with the machine it seems to be a hit and miss type of thing, and it seems to be a miss more than anything..akai build quality is in the gutter we all know that, but least they can do is help the OS be more stable, shit is it too much to ask ? and im glad people **** and complain here about wakai line of crap because maybe that will make them realize if they were putting out quality products they sales wouldnt be hurting so bad and they wouldnt have to discontinue mpc model that was introduced roughly few yrs ago...they should thank JJ for creating OS cuz that mpc would have flopped within first year of being introduced

I dunno man, I've toyed with the idea of getting second hand 5k since they're so cheap...but based on peoples experiences here with the machine it seems to be a hit and miss type of thing, and it seems to be a miss more than anything..akai build quality is in the gutter we all know that, but least they can do is help the OS be more stable, **** is it too much to ask ? and im glad people **** and complain here about wakai line of **** because maybe that will make them realize if they were putting out quality products they sales wouldnt be hurting so bad and they wouldnt have to discontinue mpc model that was introduced roughly few yrs ago...they should thank JJ for creating OS cuz that mpc would have flopped within first year of being introduced[/quote]

You don't own a 5000? You talk alot off smack for someone who doesn't own one!

Konc3pt, I would never get a used one. Akai isn't the only company who's initial product had a few hardware flaws. Look at the Allen & Heath Zed R 16, there was some wires in the first ones that werent grounded right. Also on the Focal Cm65 monitors there was a wire loose that made it buzz. The Octatrack from Elektron looks interesting and so does the Dave Smith Tempest but Ill wait a while until they iron out the initial unforeseen problems. My bad, just gear babble....

CoinUp! wrote:I dunno man, I've toyed with the idea of getting second hand 5k since they're so cheap...but based on peoples experiences here with the machine it seems to be a hit and miss type of thing, and it seems to be a miss more than anything..akai build quality is in the gutter we all know that, but least they can do is help the OS be more stable, **** is it too much to ask ? and im glad people **** and complain here about wakai line of **** because maybe that will make them realize if they were putting out quality products they sales wouldnt be hurting so bad and they wouldnt have to discontinue mpc model that was introduced roughly few yrs ago...they should thank JJ for creating OS cuz that mpc would have flopped within first year of being introduced

You don't own a 5000? You talk alot off smack for someone who doesn't own one![/quote]

so basically, nobody should talk about 5000 flaws? we should simply deny that akai made some serious mistakes with the 5000 and we should just blame the users? dude, you do realize that because of so many returns... akai had to start selling the 5000 personally? That didn't happen because of rumours spread by people who DON'T own the machine... that happened because they dropped over 2k on a machine that had they went with any other product they wouldn't have the headaches. It's fact. Never before has akai needed to sell gear personally to the public.

now we all love the mpc. We all love how they work, how they look, how they feel... we all love what they have done for sample based music.... we are all fans of the legacy and the mpc way of doing things.... for years and years akai was the cream of the crop when it came to samplers. They were known for quality... that is why it pisses people off to see cost cutting corner cutting tactics that akai has been doing. Corporate loyalty and defending your purchases only goes so far right? Just look at half the products akai has released in the past few years... you will notice many of them are discontinued alesis products that got repackaged with the akai logo and a steeper price tag.

You don't own a 5000? You talk alot off smack for someone who doesn't own one![/quote]

so basically, nobody should talk about 5000 flaws? we should simply deny that akai made some serious mistakes with the 5000 and we should just blame the users?.[/quote]


Just read the line again. Does it state that noone can talk about it? Who is denying what? Who is blaming who? I don't know what the f@ck you argument is all about.

dustymaestro wrote:Konc3pt, I would never get a used one. Akai isn't the only company who's initial product had a few hardware flaws. Look at the Allen & Heath Zed R 16, there was some wires in the first ones that werent grounded right. Also on the Focal Cm65 monitors there was a wire loose that made it buzz. The Octatrack from Elektron looks interesting and so does the Dave Smith Tempest but Ill wait a while until they iron out the initial unforeseen problems. My bad, just gear babble....

I bought a brand new 2500 when they came out, 2yrs later that same unit was worth half the price second hand, and it broke down. Similar issues somebody else mentioned about 2500 recently. I have no trust in them, they bailed on 4000 os development before ironing out all the bugs from the system. they dragged their feet with 2500 os, JJ saved their ass. now they're messing around with 5k os development. they just get bad rep all around these days. keys popping off mpk series all kinds of shit...

CoinUp! wrote:
Just read the line again. Does it state that noone can talk about it? Who is denying what? Who is blaming who? I don't know what the f@ck you argument is all about.

ay man chill out before you pop a vain in your bain or something...I dont own 5000 but I have owned several other mpcs, probably 6-7 of them. and dont take it so personal, cus if just read what's been said it was directed towards akai not the 5000 itself per say.

konc3pt wrote: cus if just read what's been said it was directed towards akai not the 5000 itself per say.

exactly... it isn't just the 5k that has people insulting akai or what ever you want to call it...

-the rpm8 monitors are a repackaged alesis discontinuation
-the miniak synth is a repackaged alesis discontinuation
-the mpk has a key popping issue
-the 1000 had a major pad design flaw, and then akai charged out the ass just to set it right

and those are just a few off the top of my head... that is where calling akai a laughing stock is coming from.

basically, if any other new company did that.... they would be gone. but because of akai's legacy product reputation they still are able to sell stuff.