AKAI MPC5000 has been discontinued O_o

It seems to me that the problem isn't with Akai discontinuing products but with them not opening up the program code. If they allowed the code to be public then loyal Akai users would find a way to fix problems themselves.
I would imagine that they think it would be detrimental to the sales of newer products. However people tend to want to spend money even when they are satisfied. A fact you can see in this entire forum because many of you have purchased more than one Akai mpc. I am one of the few exceptions having only a 4000 and have never owned another mpc, and will not buy another.
The trick is to get the code released. I have seen forums in the mid 2000's where people tried to petition Akai to release the code and it did not work.
I hope all of you 5000 owners aren't too defeated by what the company does...just go on making music. The 5000 machine, I am sure, is still very capable. plus look at the bright side the price should be falling in the near term.
cheers,
Ian

whew...looks like i flipped my 5k just in time. i got fed the same bullsh!t by the tech department. it's obvious now that they had ZERO intention of continuing their support of the machine.

- jim

yeah, Dan lied in these forums....actually promising a MPC5K Update..they promised it too on twitter lol.......JAH continued the foolery after his shambles as a beta tester.....all this year he had been advising people to cop an MPC5k if they wanted to go standalone.....meanwhile his was in the wardrobe...beside his smelly sneakers....

its been known for a while that the mpc5k was being discontinued

I hope some potential REN buyers are waking up to the real Numark

Ian Canefire wrote:The trick is to get the code released.

The brand name and the code is the MPC. None of the hardware is really proprietary. Give up the code and Akai has little left.
It's not like we didn't see it coming. The 5000 hasn't been shown in public or mentioned at shows since Summer NAMM 2010.

The trick is to get the code released.

if they released the code of the Five Hundred, they would fly off the shelves.
unfortunately, akai is missing the chance to get a leg up on the more open, agile development style that is becoming the clear solution to ALL of this mess.

Coz wrote:One update in four years and then discontinued. Shocking.

Usually we here all the Akai news from JAH.
Guess not this time???

One update in 4 years...
**** pathetic!

I heard 5k uses better quality internal components than the 2500..it's a shame akai fukt up on the OS...If it wasn't for the OS I'd gladly pick one up

crossings wrote:

JAH wrote:Not suprised to see people that have never owned or used an MPC 5000 more concerned with it being discontinued than those that actually own it. Akai is still in the MPC business....

not surprised to see you stick up for something akai did which you know is wrong. even you abandoned the mpc5000 over time, jah... don't even act like it's something worth sticking up for. they released a buggy, sh!tty, overpriced machine which did NOT deliver. and just because they pay you to promote the ren doesn't make them "still in the mpc business".

Nym wrote:

The trick is to get the code released.

if they released the code of the Five Hundred, they would fly off the shelves.
unfortunately, akai is missing the chance to get a leg up on the more open, agile development style that is becoming the clear solution to ALL of this mess.

Explicit- wrote:

Coz wrote:One update in four years and then discontinued. Shocking.

Usually we here all the Akai news from JAH.
Guess not this time???

One update in 4 years...
**** pathetic!

I respectfully disagree with Moyphees view. Apple for example lets people create apps for their devices and allows profits o be shared. That is but one business model. Akai could simply put the code out there and still sell the physical products.
I doubt they will mess up the renaissance because for the most part technological advances have made much of what it can do easy. I mean, the way programs emulate compressors is astounding, my roland VS LA-2A plug-in, sounds like the LA-2A that I used to borrow from my friend.
now I would have been impressed if the REN was made to be a stand alone as well as a dressed up soundcard. That is probably the next product down the line (who knows) The 5000 was an attempt at some nice advances, and I can appreciate what it does. Many of the items in it were placed there to make it compete with and exceed the competition.
I have read through almost all of the 4000 forum and I have seen all of the youtube videos, and yet still there is so much empty info regarding the 4000. People are still trying to learn how to use the synth in it. Why? Because the vast majority do not use all of the functions that are in it.
The 5000 comes along and they figure add a little this and some of that and cut that out because it wasn't a big deal amongst users. The 5000 is still a good product, maybe it has bugs. You put it in the right hands like all of the MPC's and they can make a track that has the possibility to make you money.
I guess all I am saying is have a little perspective on it. You want to be forward thinking then find a way to get the code. Too bad none of us know people that work there. We could bribe someone.
cheers,
Ian

I wish some people here would do their homework on akai's product's release/discontinue history. with all of their mpc's, never once was there an official announcement from akai that they were going to discontinue a product. when they released an mpc, there was never an official release date from akai. they promote it prior to release then it winds up in stores.

as far as longevity, since the mpc 60, each mpc had an average "new" sellable lifespan of about 2 1/2 - 3 years.

for those who don't know, here are the release years of each mpc:

MPC 60 - 1987
MPC 60II - 1991
MPC 3000- 1994
MPC 2000- 1997
MPC2000xl-1999
MPC4000 - 2002
MPC1000 - 2003
MPC2500 - 2005
MPC500 - 2006
MPC5000 - 2008

and now true to release form, 2012 another line of MPCs are about to hit the market. with the exception of the 1000 and the 500, about the time of each new MPC is release, the previous model is discontinued. so the 5000 being disco'd, its no suprise but more of evolution.

with regards to the 5000 being disco'd with only one OS update and the fact that JJ "saved" the 1000 and the 2500, I don't hear anyone saying the 3000 was dead in the water until the Vailixi upgrade.

who knows, maybe another JJ or Vailixi will come along and code an update for the 5000. do we expect akai to spend their time and money on their R&D department coming up with updates for the original mpc 60 in 2012? it's not like they are Roland, where roland dropped their MV line without coming out with something to replace it. They went from the 8000 to the 8800 then done. At least akai is still producing more MPC lines.

At least akai is still producing more MPC lines.

most manufacturers finish a product before moving on to the next one.

Nym wrote:

At least akai is still producing more MPC lines.

most manufacturers finish a product before moving on to the next one.

Indeed

sparq wrote:They went from the 8000 to the 8800 then done.

But they fixed all of the bugs before walking away. Both 8000 and 8800 got updates before the unit was set aside. Two different philosophies.

Nym wrote:

At least akai is still producing more MPC lines.

most manufacturers finish a product before moving on to the next one.

still producing them none the less. c'mon Nym, you know this. the 4000 was disco'd before the 1000 came out

moyphee wrote:

sparq wrote:They went from the 8000 to the 8800 then done.

But they fixed all of the bugs before walking away. Both 8000 and 8800 got updates before the unit was set aside. Two different philosophies.

then you can technically say the 5000 got an update (v2.0) before it was set aside.

sparq wrote:I wish some people here would do their homework on akai's product's release/discontinue history. with all of their mpc's, never once was there an official announcement from akai that they were going to discontinue a product. when they released an mpc, there was never an official release date from akai. they promote it prior to release then it winds up in stores.

as far as longevity, since the mpc 60, each mpc had an average "new" sellable lifespan of about 2 1/2 - 3 years.

for those who don't know, here are the release years of each mpc:

MPC 60 - 1987
MPC 60II - 1991
MPC 3000- 1994
MPC 2000- 1997
MPC2000xl-1999
MPC4000 - 2002
MPC1000 - 2003
MPC2500 - 2005
MPC500 - 2006
MPC5000 - 2008

and now true to release form, 2012 another line of MPCs are about to hit the market. with the exception of the 1000 and the 500, about the time of each new MPC is release, the previous model is discontinued. so the 5000 being disco'd, its no suprise but more of evolution.

with regards to the 5000 being disco'd with only one OS update and the fact that JJ "saved" the 1000 and the 2500, I don't hear anyone saying the 3000 was dead in the water until the Vailixi upgrade.

who knows, maybe another JJ or Vailixi will come along and code an update for the 5000. do we expect akai to spend their time and money on their R&D department coming up with updates for the original mpc 60 in 2012? it's not like they are Roland, where roland dropped their MV line without coming out with something to replace it. They went from the 8000 to the 8800 then done. At least akai is still producing more MPC lines.

A lot of really biased statements there. If you wanted to provide useful information you should have provided their history of support for products over time. No one expects continual development on end-of-lifed hardware, but people can and should expect support for a company's current flagship product line.

Let me ask you this. How interested would you be in the Ren if you knew Akai was unlikely to ever put out more than one update to the product ove it's life? Be honest here.

How interested would you be in the Ren if you knew Akai was unlikely to ever put out more than one update to the product ove it's life?

this.