MPC 5000 OS 2

kb420ps wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:
Jah we just had a battle and the instruments I used were from keygroups.

I'd like to hear the beats. Where are the links to the beats that you guys used for the battle?

Blue Haze wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/askiashaheed
http://www.soundclick.com/members/defau ... 0haze%20ii

kb420ps wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:
http://www.myspace.com/askiashaheed
http://www.soundclick.com/members/defau ... 0haze%20ii

It sounds like you quantize all of your music. Do you?

Not criticizing. Just curious.

Blue Haze wrote:Nice opinion different understanding and different feeling depending on
the muse of the creator.

kb420ps wrote:We spoke in another thread about quantization and feel, and for some reason, I thought that your music would have a more human/less quantized feel to it.


The MPC 4000 and 5000 have a note resolution of 960 ppq, so I thought most users wouldn't need quantize, and that they programmed more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCKC-JdD ... 1/lesson2/

Blue Haze wrote:Thanks I already have. I use ableton for my remixes with aceppellas and such. For me midi sequencing rhythm tracks and sample based tracks on a mpc is different but I not going to debate all of that cuz we both would be here all night.

Click on my sign to hear the beats and tracks I make if you want understand that the feel and groove I work for.

When it comes to house music, are his tracks lacking the "feel" of an MPC?

kb420ps wrote:I didn't miss anything. I have been programming beats since 8

Cool then lets hear your beats enough talk.

I know all about what he did and didn't quantize.

Then why did you post up a hip hop video to compare to a house tracks claiming no quantize with quantization in the track??

I just used his video as an example of something that we discussed in another thread.

What has live and mpc got to do with this battle it is based on music not quantization or not. By the way the same tracks play in the Club Yellow before closing and the dancers and djs like them how about yours??? Who cares what you like??

In another thread you said that you couldn't use Live to sequence in because it didn't have the same feel as your MPC, yet the music I heard in your "beat battle" was house music which is all pretty much hard quantized and doesn't require any human "feel" at all.

You got issues so what if you can`t tell swing from hard quantize who cares its your problem. You should post an track of yours if you are all that.

Most of the people who use Live are actually doing more of your type of music than Hip Hop (at least it seems that way on their forums).

Most people use live to djs. I even made a hip hop mixtape with live it`s my prerogative nobodies going to tell me how to make my music. Do you and get over it. Music is music no matter what you use. I use a mpc for sequencing eat me.

My issue isn't with what or how Digga did what he did. It's more about what you consider to be "feel" in a MPC vs software in a situation where you are quantizing everything anyway.

You got issues seek help it is no biggy. Live 8 beta even includes mpc swing grooves cuz mpc swing is KING. But whether you know it or not you have to quantizae first to set the swing. After you swing, shift the timing you are no longer hard quantized. Ehh what the hell post up a track and show use what you got.

Here is a quote from you on the other thread:

Blue Haze wrote:Thanks I already have. I use ableton for my remixes with aceppellas and such. For me midi sequencing rhythm tracks and sample based tracks on a mpc is different but I not going to debate all of that cuz we both would be here all night.

Click on my sign to hear the beats and tracks I make if you want understand that the feel and groove I work for.

After listening to your "beats and tracks", I just don't see what's different about the "feel and groove" that would make one choose the MPC's sequencer over Live's.

Now if you said that you couldn't get that "human feel" that Digga is talking about in his video through actually tapping the beat (kicks and hats in his video specifically) in with the quantize off, then I would agree that the MPC is superior with it's 960 ppq and absolute zero latency.

But if you are hard quantizing everything like in your music, there is no difference.

I`m doing no such thing. Let`s hear yours.

Anything that is hard quantized really doesn't have any "human" feel, because human drummers aren't computers.

So, once again, I ask you, what do you define as "feel and groove"?

Groove is what moves the floor.

I don't do house music. I mainly compose Hip Hop and RnB, but here are a few tracks done by another Live user (Rave) that are closer to House Music than anything that I would ever do. They were all done in the Live 8 Beta. Here is the link:

Why be a baby and post someone`s else`s work rather than yours?? If live is your main sequencer show it without all
this hard quantization nonsense you blowing up and let the people on the call out thread decide.
http://www.vimeo.com/3307887
http://www.vimeo.com/2943322

These tracks are hard quantized.

When it comes to house music, are his tracks lacking the "feel" of an MPC?