Just Blaze Rant on the 5000

Askia Shaheed wrote:Don't blame me for not understanding your points. They just don't add up. Audio tracks on the MPC 5K serve several purposes. Workstations such as the ASR-10 and Triton Studio have similar functions. The Fantom series and MV workstations have audio tracks but they are RAM based. The MPC 5K offer both RAM and hard disk audio tracks. But since the MPC 4000 doesn't have these features I can understand why you may be puzzled.

As far as moving on....I thought we were still talking about MPCs that he hate and love? My bad.....but what about that Blueprint 3?

i am not puzzled at all..
is english your native language?
not being funny.. asking seriously.
bc i dont understand where some of your confusion or not understanding comes from.. dont seem to be having that problem anywhere else or with anyone else on here..
you apparently thought i didnt know what the audio tracks were for? or literally there? or how they work? what is it you think i don't understand dude lol..
and where did i give someone the advice of getting a laptop?

when he said "i don't understand" i don't think he literally meant "understand"...i think it was that casual conversation understand as in "whats the point?"




as far as that rumor about Kanye and NoID...


i say "HAHA" to that.

Why?

Because I have a feeling it was started in a room amidst Homos Against Heterosexual Activity. That's beyond laughable.

This thread seems to be going around in circles now... pointless never ending ones at that!

I actually think it's cool that JB has taken the time to come into this forum to defend his remarks that some dude copied from his own blog and pasted them in here. That initial level of respect seems to have dropped though, especially with people inferring that JB's music could be produced on any MPC. I think that's getting a little bit personal now really...

Maybe those people should post up their music so WE can be the judge of who's really bangin it with the MP?!

^ seriously, I've been reading this thread for a while and its reached a point where nothing is getting accomplished. The man stated his views on the 5000 and that should be that. For some reason cats cant stand when someone states their opinion.

Askia Shaheed wrote: The Fantom series and MV workstations have audio tracks but they are RAM based. The MPC 5K offer both RAM and hard disk audio tracks.
?

The Continuous Sample tracks on the 5000 are limited to the same minuscule max of 192MB. The MV and 4000 sports 512 officially and the MV itself actually can use up to 1GB (unofficially). The problem with the HD implementation is that the 5000 uses the same HD for storage as it does for recording. The problem here is two-fold.

1. As the capacity of the drive is used along with developed errors and fragmentation, the HD Audio Tracks will suffer in terms of Seek/Load times causing latency as with any HD recorder. This is inevitable as the the HD begins to fill.

2.Using the same HD for both storage and recording means that a problem with the HD can corrupt will saved libraries and recorded track. This is why no studio worth it's salt uses the same HD for and apps/plugs as it does for tracks and backup.

* There is a very good reason why industry level HD Audio Dubbers, Field Recorders, 2 Tracks, and other vital recording are being replaced by hi-cap RAM storage. The two reasons listed are the primary factors.

I want to publically apologize for even copying and pasting this lmao

this shit is gettin corny in here

Tha S Ence wrote:I want to publically apologize for even copying and pasting this lmao

this **** is gettin corny in here

Word!

poundaproblem wrote:^ seriously, I've been reading this thread for a while and its reached a point where nothing is getting accomplished. The man stated his views on the 5000 and that should be that. For some reason cats cant stand when someone states their opinion.

Agreed.

justblaze wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:...

i am not puzzled at all..
is english your native language?
not being funny.. asking seriously.
bc i dont understand where some of your confusion or not understanding comes from.. dont seem to be having that problem anywhere else or with anyone else on here..
you apparently thought i didnt know what the audio tracks were for? or literally there? or how they work? what is it you think i don't understand dude lol..
and where did i give someone the advice of getting a laptop?

that's jahrome, don't pay him no mind, he's the neighborhood r3tard...

moyphee wrote:1. As the capacity of the drive is used along with developed errors and fragmentation, the HD Audio Tracks will suffer in terms of Seek/Load times causing latency as with any HD recorder. This is inevitable as the the HD begins to fill.

2.Using the same HD for both storage and recording means that a problem with the HD can corrupt will saved libraries and recorded track. This is why no studio worth it's salt uses the same HD for and apps/plugs as it does for tracks and backup.

Mmmmm...

Combine those issues with sloppy Akai disk formatting routines and I'm sure you're in for a ton of "fun"....

moyphee wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote: The Fantom series and MV workstations have audio tracks but they are RAM based. The MPC 5K offer both RAM and hard disk audio tracks.
?

The Continuous Sample tracks on the 5000 are limited to the same minuscule max of 192MB. The MV and 4000 sports 512 officially and the MV itself actually can use up to 1GB (unofficially). The problem with the HD implementation is that the 5000 uses the same HD for storage as it does for recording. The problem here is two-fold.

1. As the capacity of the drive is used along with developed errors and fragmentation, the HD Audio Tracks will suffer in terms of Seek/Load times causing latency as with any HD recorder. This is inevitable as the the HD begins to fill.

2.Using the same HD for both storage and recording means that a problem with the HD can corrupt will saved libraries and recorded track. This is why no studio worth it's salt uses the same HD for and apps/plugs as it does for tracks and backup.

* There is a very good reason why industry level HD Audio Dubbers, Field Recorders, 2 Tracks, and other vital recording are being replaced by hi-cap RAM storage. The two reasons listed are the primary factors.

So the MPC 5000 has a minuscule 192 MB of RAM compared to the MV and 4000 having 512 MB of RAM. Anybody reading the specs can write that. But the MPC 5000 has a massive 80 gig hard drive that you can record audio tracks. And its only a matter of time when people start trying to installing 120 GB drives. Seeing that the MPC 5K also has a compact flash card reader/writer as well as a way to back up files on your MPC, I don't see any problem with using the hard drive to record to. For individuals wanting to do a lot of hard disk recording/editing that can simply use the hard drive and CF drive for saving projects. Also you can record/edit on your DAW if you choose and then import those tracks into the 5Ks hard disk recorder. You have several options to choose.....including burning your projects to cheap CDRs....there was time when MPC users were saving their projects to 100 or 250 MB zip drives...not we are doing so with 2GB flash drives that can fit in your wallet....

Additionally...I could be mistaken but the MPC 4000 doesn't even have audio tracks....hard disk or RAM based.


@JustBlaze (or whoever he is...)....if you haven't noticed already...most of the people that is writing in this thread do not own an MPC 5K nor plan on buying one....which is ok. But the few of us that are here that actually own the machine and enjoy using it would love to hear what you like about the machine...what you would like to see improved. We have several threads for that. If you are having bug problems, there are plenty of threads for that. We can work through them to determine if your problems can be reproduced so we can email Akai for a fix or determine if it is simply user error or a misunderstanding. So far, you haven't done much here except use this thread as a platform to keep saying the same thing (which is what others..including myself..are doing).

So...can you give some input into the threads I mentioned above? Or would you prefer to just extend this thread another 17 pages without any new information and just throw your 5K in the closet? I am ok with both.....

Jahrome you should consider growing up a lil..might do you some good

Iam surprised JB still respond to these jokers. stop nuking the topic man any blind man can see the 5k is flaky. I like akai but hate NUAKAI BIIIIIIIGGGGGG difference.



oh yeah just copped my pair of NIKE AM 95 in size 10.5 ( running man pack ) thats my 36th pair of am95 - been collecting them since 97. iam so happy.

Askia Shaheed wrote:
But the MPC 5000 has a massive 80 gig hard drive that you can record audio tracks. And its only a matter of time when people start trying to installing 120 GB drives.

Sorry Mr.Shaheed,

The MV handles 120GB drives , DVD(read) CDR/RW(read/write) when upgraded by the user. Out of the box the MV exports it's Audio Tracks as WAVs , import a wav of any sample rate or bit depth and can import WAVs created on any DAW. I don't claim that the MV is beast of beast but my point is that there's nothing groundbreaking going on with the 5000 just yet.

I think that your love for Akai seriously clouds your judgment. Here's the deal. You're a customer and you already bought the machine. Under Numakai you are no longer their concern. You will never be a official Beta because you spend more time doing for free than what Akai is willing to do for itself. Wake up and take off those rose tinted shades. You paid to be a beta tester. The other 99.9% of the customers didn't sign up for that. JB didn't and he voiced it. Be thankful someone with some weight spoke up. We know what happens when Joe Public speaks to Akai and most of us don't have any plans to go fvvK ourselves even when order by Numakai.

"He ain't no vampire. He's a familiar...that's his owners mark.This is somebody's pet. They're not vampires just humans - but they think that if they prove their loyalty their owners will turn them. " Wesley Snipes in Blade

Askia Shaheed wrote:But the few of us that are here that actually own the machine and enjoy using it would love to hear what you like about the machine...what you would like to see improved. We have several threads for that. If you are having bug problems, there are plenty of threads for that. We can work through them to determine if your problems can be reproduced so we can email Akai for a fix or determine if it is simply user error or a misunderstanding.

No user error here Dr. Phil

Askia Shaheed wrote:So...can you give some input into the threads I mentioned above?

No.

Askia Shaheed wrote:
Or would you prefer to just extend this thread another 17 pages without any new information and just throw your 5K in the closet?

Yes.

I don't mind popping in and kicking it here and there..
But I'm seriously done with this type of thing. it is corny.
We can kick it about 5000s 4000s 8800s 882s 888s da-88's asr-88's and 1988... but the back n forth about the rant is done.. on my end at least.



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(God I hate that song lol)