Questions about the mpc 5000: shoot

scd wrote:Hi Dave.

Actually this is the only thread on this forum where I feel safe...

I've read your post this morning and wondered myself about page 192 (not of the manual, but of the pdf file) and asked questions about it at Akai. Waiting for the answer.

Regards, Boele

No problem. I just thought they might want to improve their product if the feature wasn't
there... thanks again..

I understand about not feeling safe on this forum... !


Dave

scd, what's the word on double-triggering with the pads?

LvngDead wrote:scd, what's the word on double-triggering with the pads?

what?

Since them MPC pads are all thin and shit, a lot of times when you strike the pads, a note will be triggered like a flam. Meh, doesn't happen to everybody, but does happen to some. Just wanted to know if the pads on the 3500 are a little thicker. thank you.

btw, how the **** do you being in the Netherlands get to test the new MPC?

LvngDead wrote:Since them MPC pads are all thin and ****, a lot of times when you strike the pads, a note will be triggered like a flam. Meh, doesn't happen to everybody, but does happen to some. Just wanted to know if the pads on the 3500 are a little thicker. thank you.

I see. I had that with the 4k in the beginning. But after banging on it a lot of times it got better quickly. On the 5k I can't remember having double triggers actually. So my guess is that it is good. Or I hit those pads just hard enough.

btw, how the **** do you being in the Netherlands get to test the new MPC?

Maybe they needed a European approach? Akai wanted someone on their betatest team that uses it a bit different as most mpc users. I use the MPC as the beating heart in my studio, controlling all of my (mostly analog) synthesizers.
I guess that is not the average hiphop approach. I assume it is mostly used as stand alone sampler/sequencer.

I hate computers when composing. The MPC is the solution for me. I have a 4k for a few years now and even alone for that purpose iwas the best buy in years. The 24 bit sampler is a big bonus.

Akai found me, I didn't ask for it. And maybe it helped that I have been betatesting for other companies.

Regards, Boele

Yeah I hate computers too. No one is gonna deny that something like Ableton Live shits on every hardware drum machine/sampler ever made, but working on Ableton through an Axiom 49 isn't the same as working on just a MV 8000.

So, you used to use the 4000 huh? I guess I gotta bother you a little more cause I'm stuck in deciding which MPC to get. What's the difference in the sample editing features on the two machines?

LvngDead wrote:Yeah I hate computers too. No one is gonna deny that something like Ableton Live **** on every hardware drum machine/sampler ever made, but working on Ableton through an Axiom 49 isn't the same as working on just a MV 8000.

So, you used to use the 4000 huh? I guess I gotta bother you a little more cause I'm stuck in deciding which MPC to get. What's the difference in the sample editing features on the two machines?

Still have them both, the 4 and 5k. The sampler in the 4k is quite different from the 5k. And 24 bits. You'll hear that in dynamics of course. It is a Z8 sampler inside the 4k actually. You can build multis on it. It goes further then the 5k. But *that* one has a *to my opinion* far better interface, plus the synthesizer, plus the arpeggiator, plus the harddiskrecorder, plus sample chopping and patched phrases etc...
So it really depends on what you're after. If a quality sampler is your top priority and you do your own sampling and you are an audiophile: 4k, if anything else: 5k. That's about my opinion.
Then again, the audio quality of the 5k sampler is with 16 bits/44.1 equal/better sounding than the 4k.
And the 5k is muchos better performing in the bug department when it will be released

That arpeggiatior on the 5k plus the synth is SO inspiring (specially with the syncable delays... ahhhhh.....). Here is a little piece of a song I am working on. The arp is doing the internal synth.
Rest is outboard gear. Nothing special, but that arp
http://www.synthmusic.info/mpdries/5karp.mp3

Not the typical MPC stuff I guess, and probably a lot of frowning eyebrows about that silly Dutchman

how simular is the VA synth on the MPC5000 to the Fusion?
also, are their any other simularities between the Fusion and the MPC5000?

I would like to do some drums over your synth pattern in the 8000. Is that okay sir?

mjames4208 wrote:how simular is the VA synth on the MPC5000 to the Fusion?
also, are their any other simularities between the Fusion and the MPC5000?

Sorry, I don't really know the Fusion.

I'll take that as a no.

both the mpc 1000 and the 2500 have suffered from defective pads. have akai fully addressed this issue, grown a pair, stepped up to the plate, jumped back and kissed themselves, seized the day, thought outside the box, got down on their bended knees, prayed for forgiveness and THEN:

put in the 5000 the pads that EVERYONE loves aka the 2000xl pads

or have the dropped the ball AGAIN?

also is the 5k data wheel matt black rubber? does it sound like the 2500 wheel aka fifty tin cans being thrown down a cobbled street at 3am OR have they seen the light?

finally can you blackmail akai into seeing sense and use the wheel that EVERYONE loves aka the classic mpc2000 jog/shuttle?

and as a last note can you please ensure all of the features of GURU be incorporated into an mpc os 1.01 update released march 24th 208?

earwolf wrote:both the mpc 1000 and the 2500 have suffered from defective pads. have akai fully addressed this issue, grown a pair, stepped up to the plate, jumped back and kissed themselves, seized the day, thought outside the box, got down on their bended knees, prayed for forgiveness and THEN:

put in the 5000 the pads that EVERYONE loves aka the 2000xl pads

or have the dropped the ball AGAIN?

FIY, the the pad-sensor is the same on the 2500 as on the 2000XL...(and as on the MPC60/mkII and 3000 as well)

k1 wrote:

earwolf wrote:both the mpc 1000 and the 2500 have suffered from defective pads. have akai fully addressed this issue, grown a pair, stepped up to the plate, jumped back and kissed themselves, seized the day, thought outside the box, got down on their bended knees, prayed for forgiveness and THEN:

put in the 5000 the pads that EVERYONE loves aka the 2000xl pads

or have the dropped the ball AGAIN?

FIY, the the pad-sensor is the same on the 2500 as on the 2000XL...(and as on the MPC60/mkII and 3000 as well)

but the 2500 has had recognised issues. and the softness has been lost. are you telling me this is not true?

The pads on the 2500 are new and indeed harder than on the Xl. I think the assembly is new also but don't know about the actual sensor itself.

BTW scd, have you heard anything yet from Akai about the output/converters of the 5000 and if they are the same or improved over the 2500?