MPC 5000 update: All MPC 5000 OWNERS please read

mp3 wrote:

golfzerosafari wrote:

mp3 wrote:Told yall losers you shoulda got JJ. look at you... Only thing we argue about is which jj os is better...

I had jj, I still would rather have a 5000. If youre not smart enough to know what were trying to do, I feel sorry for you.

Watch out everybody mr. golf man can't take a joke...

Smart. Hmm... Feeling insecure today?

Anyway my apologies all... Carry on!

You still dont get it. Not the sharpest tool in the shed are ya Lemme tell you something Mr "low quality music

file" this a public forum. Random 5000 owners who do not you will not understand your sense of humor. Why in the

hell would I feel insecure about your comment? Drop your mp3 player and go study Psychology, youll find out that

most of the time people are a mirror of their own words.

golfzerosafari wrote:Why in the hell would I feel insecure about your comment?

Study psychology, so you can know how insecurity works.

golfzerosafari wrote:Lemme tell you something Mr "low quality music file" this a public forum.

Right so I can say what I want to who I want... Within limits of course. I definitely wouldn't call some internet stranger stupid for no good reason... I'm bigger than that, son.

golfzerosafari wrote:most of the time people are a mirror of their own words.

Okay, and... wait for it...

golfzerosafari wrote:...youre not smart enough...

And there you have it folks...

sorry mp3 but bumping here into this tensioned thread with "hello losers" doesnt mean somebody cant take a joke, its the old oil in the fire thingy and you were smart enough to apologize shortly after. please dont get your mouth stuck in your yummy seed.

For the record I love my MPC 5000. I had a 2kXL for years then a few years back i thought "to hell with it I'm going all sw." Sold it and regreted it but I made due. I was able to make the same type of beats on logic (especially with ome mpc groove templates loaded). Actually, using logic forced me to think differently about production and i learned new wasy to create. Now I'm back to the MPC with the 5k (with logic as well) and I couldnt ask for a better machine. Lots of belly aching about this thing but it's done well by me. Like someone said previously there is no perfect piece of gear. Maybe there was a bad batch or something.

moyphee wrote:

The only thing Akai brought to the table was money. I couldn't find one piece of info to prove otherwise. Where did you get your info from? Please tell me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Production_Center
The original MPC60 was designed by Roger Linn, who was hired as a design consultant by Akai. He developed the functional design, including the panel layout and software/hardware specifications.

Too much is being read into this statement. Linn's design layout and software specs don't equate to sole invention by a long shot.

1. Software specs and writing the software are two different things. Linn contribution in this area was more or less, "here's what it should do/make it do this (like this)" to put it simply.

2. The original MPC-60 was actually a combo of the S-900 sampler and ASQ-10 sequencer- Linn had absolutely nothing to do with either unit. In fact all MPCs until the bankruptcy were an reinstalled sequencer and the engine of whatever rack sampler they were selling at the time.

Really? Then why in the hell would they hire Roger Linn? Seems like they could have done it themselves right? NO, NOT RIGHT.

b-righteous wrote:It was Roger Linns design and input that makes the MPC what it is. Without that the sampler and sequencer is no better than any other run of the mill out there. In fact probably less as other workstations steal from his layout. Respect where it's do.

Exactly b...exactly. Well said.

You guys still worshipping Roger Linn? Most of you weren't even born when he was in the MPC business. Besides, very few people in this forum actually use a "Roger Linn" MPC (MPC 60 and 3000). The MPC 2500 (which should have been named the MPC 3500) is much better machine overall than the MPC 3000. In addition to that, what has he done in the past two decades in this field? Boomchik? Lol

Well Askia, just as a question since I take your opinion seriously...

How would you rate the 2500 (whether running Akai default OS or JJOS) next to the 5000, excluding the screen and synth?

MPC 2500 with JJOS does pretty much what I need in an MPC. The MPC 5000 has so many features...that I don't use that much. I use MPCs mainly to sample and chop and sequence MIDI and drums. The 2500 does these just as well.

The thread I created about Feedback on future MPCs is what I need most.

Askia Shaheed wrote:You guys still worshipping Roger Linn? Most of you weren't even born when he was in the MPC business. Besides, very few people in this forum actually use a "Roger Linn" MPC (MPC 60 and 3000). The MPC 2500 (which should have been named the MPC 3500) is much better machine overall than the MPC 3000. In addition to that, what has he done in the past two decades in this field? Boomchik? Lol

askia,i can tell your very into you mpc s and know a lot.but i cant believe you or anybody else can compare the sound (if you were to)of a "new" mpc and a old style mpc.there just different!!and better is not a word i would use personally.Roger linn is a cool dude.wish he was helping to shape this new batch.boomchik.so in my opinion there not comparable and roger was around a long time ago shaping the iconic bombproof,genre creating beatboxes..... nuff respec (but OVERALL each to there own eh)enjoi

BxJaze wrote:Well Askia, just as a question since I take your opinion seriously...

How would you rate the 2500 (whether running Akai default OS or JJOS) next to the 5000, excluding the screen and synth?

Good Question and needs a detailed response.anybody???

dryad-66 wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:You guys still worshipping Roger Linn? Most of you weren't even born when he was in the MPC business. Besides, very few people in this forum actually use a "Roger Linn" MPC (MPC 60 and 3000). The MPC 2500 (which should have been named the MPC 3500) is much better machine overall than the MPC 3000. In addition to that, what has he done in the past two decades in this field? Boomchik? Lol

askia,i can tell your very into you mpc s and know a lot.but i cant believe you or anybody else can compare the sound (if you were to)of a "new" mpc and a old style mpc.there just different!!and better is not a word i would use personally.Roger linn is a cool dude.wish he was helping to shape this new batch.boomchik.so in my opinion there not comparable and roger was around a long time ago shaping the iconic bombproof,genre creating beatboxes..... nuff respec (but OVERALL each to there own eh)enjoi

What could Roger Linn bring to the table to the MPCs other than his name?

I know what the "old" MPCs sound like. The MPC 3000LE was my main MPC until the MPC 2500 was released in 2005. I created a thread in this forum and had links posted with audio examples from the 3000 and 2500. In this blind test, the MPC 2500 came out on top. The MPC 3000 and 2500 do "sound" different, but that they both "sound" great. My reason for replacing the 3000 with the 2500 was due too many factors to count. The 2500 is superior to the 3000 in nearly every aspect that counts.

dryad-66 wrote:

BxJaze wrote:Well Askia, just as a question since I take your opinion seriously...

How would you rate the 2500 (whether running Akai default OS or JJOS) next to the 5000, excluding the screen and synth?

Good Question and needs a detailed response.anybody???

Honestly...that is like asking how do you rate Pro Tools and Pro Tools LE. The MPC 5000 (Pro Tools) does everything the MPC 2500 (Pro Tools LE) does and has many more functions. There are too many threads with the details. The question will always be whether you need all the additional functions of the MPC 5000.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

dryad-66 wrote:

BxJaze wrote:Well Askia, just as a question since I take your opinion seriously...

How would you rate the 2500 (whether running Akai default OS or JJOS) next to the 5000, excluding the screen and synth?

Good Question and needs a detailed response.anybody???

Honestly...that is like asking how do you rate Pro Tools and Pro Tools LE. The MPC 5000 (Pro Tools) does everything the MPC 2500 (Pro Tools LE) does and has many more functions. There are too many threads with the details. The question will always be whether you need all the additional functions of the MPC 5000.

Askia.you live in a unique world where every thing You say is right.my experience is very different to yours.why?because my tests with the 5k and 4k for instance sitting nexto to each other had diffent results.for 1 the percussive nature of the trigger of hits (with adjustments accordingly)was hugely more sensitive and subtle in the 4k.which for me is very similar to my old 2k.and in percussion this is crucial.2 the new units have a softer sound which suits many people.no problem.maybe thats better.but these beasties are from different stables.they certainly operate differently.but in simple terms the same.yeah the new ones seem to have many more functions its true.thats good.enough..question about 5k and 2.5?basically the same?(fx?filters?ect,ect)?ok?ok whatever..........this is a 5k thread so play on as i like this machine a lot,cheers

dryad-66 wrote: Askia.you live in a unique world where every thing You say is right.my experience is very different to yours.why?because my tests with the 5k and 4k for instance sitting nexto to each other had diffent results.for 1 the percussive nature of the trigger of hits (with adjustments accordingly)was hugely more sensitive and subtle in the 4k.which for me is very similar to my old 2k.and in percussion this is crucial.

It's because ALL the new MPC's have incorrect pad sensitivity scaling which causes incorrect calibration.
JJ modified it to be better but it's still not right.
Why Akai didn't see this problem still baffles me.
I own/have owned every MPC and ALL the black MPC's have this issue.
Maybe people don't notice because they haven't used enough different MPC's but it does exist.
It's even worst on the black MPD/MPK's.