Opinion on the Synth of the 5000

outgo wrote:what I don't understand is why Akai does not allow to route samples into the synth engine like you can do in the synth of the Roland MV.

The MPC 5K 20 voice synth is implemented differently than the MV. The MV's synth is part of its effects processor. But being the feature request kind of guy I am, I would like to use my own samples as waveform for the synth..especially since we can edit the synth with Q-links. I agree with you 100%...

outgo wrote:
what I don't understand is why Akai does not allow to route samples into the synth engine like you can do in the synth of the Roland MV.


The MPC 5K 20 voice synth is implemented differently than the MV. The MV's synth is part of its effects processor. But being the feature request kind of guy I am, I would like to use my own samples as waveform for the synth..especially since we can edit the synth with Q-links. I agree with you 100%...

now that would truly be an amazing idea. i totally concur.

The MPC 5K 20 voice synth is implemented differently than the MV. The MV's synth is part of its effects processor. But being the feature request kind of guy I am, I would like to use my own samples as waveform for the synth..especially since we can edit the synth with Q-links. I agree with you 100%...

does anyone know if this is really possible? ...like the Nord Wave?

could this in fact be the future of AKAI?!?

the best drum sampler / hardware sequencer on the planet, ...with a built in synthesizer that accepts user created waveforms, ....making it the best sampler of all time?!????!??

does anyone else agree??!@!??!?? ...this is the best idea i've ever heard on this forum.

...the only two other things that make my teeth salvate would be perfected chop-shop, ...as well as somehow making the 8 track HD recorder better.

this is such a good idea, ...someone else respond with your thoughts "please"!

you can do that with an electribe VA synth .. such as the EA-1. You can even hook a mic to it and speak through the synth engine. I guess you could get it as a cheap synth engine addon for your samples and your 5k synth ... I think I will give sending samples through it a shot some time in the near future...

The best part... they are like a hundred bucks and they dont sound half bad... also easy as hell to use.

oneday2one wrote:

The MPC 5K 20 voice synth is implemented differently than the MV. The MV's synth is part of its effects processor. But being the feature request kind of guy I am, I would like to use my own samples as waveform for the synth..especially since we can edit the synth with Q-links. I agree with you 100%...

does anyone know if this is really possible? ...like the Nord Wave?

could this in fact be the future of AKAI?!?

the best drum sampler / hardware sequencer on the planet, ...with a built in synthesizer that accepts user created waveforms, ....making it the best sampler of all time?!????!??

does anyone else agree??!@!??!?? ...this is the best idea i've ever heard on this forum.

...the only two other things that make my teeth salvate would be perfected chop-shop, ...as well as somehow making the 8 track HD recorder better.

this is such a good idea, ...someone else respond with your thoughts "please"!

This is Akai's flagship MPC. They are not just going to sit on their hands and not make any improvements to their product. User created waveforms (samples) use in the synth, improved Chop Shop, improved hard disk recording, etc are among the numerous things users/non-users alike have requested over the past 8 months or so. Every time I think of the MPC 1000s Akai OS 1 to Akai OS 2 (aka MPC 2500) to JJ OS 2XL, I think about the possibilities of the MPC 5000.

If you have any specific ideas about improvements, please share them in the forum.

that's what I meant in the first place: it's not so exotic to route samples through a synth engine or use user samples as waveforms.
i mean there are filters and envelopes in the programs anyway but using the synth would also add ringmod and FM.

Kurzweils can do this, the Nord wave, many VA synths with audio inputs like the Virus.

outgo wrote:that's what I meant in the first place: it's not so exotic to route samples through a synth engine or use user samples as waveforms.
i mean there are filters and envelopes in the programs anyway but using the synth would also add ringmod and FM.

Kurzweils can do this, the Nord wave, many VA synths with audio inputs like the Virus.

True...but this is the first time a synth was in an MPC and the first time hard disk recording was in one as well. We can't expect an MPC to be a Moog Voyager and Logic overnight.

For every MPC feature, I bet many of us can think of different ways to enhance it. I really do agree with you but it is impossible to have everything. The only thing we can do is cross our fingers and hope that the things we want will make it to a future OS..

I bet no-one with a 5k has pushed it anywhere near its limits up to now, yet owners just seem to want more and more from it. I can understand people wanting improvements but I think you'd all be better off sitting down and making some beats while you wait!

I am surprised by the synth.I think its definitely in need of some improvement. I am surprised that Alesis , the makers of the mighty andromeda , ion and micron can produce such a below par synthesizer. Hey Alesis ! get some guys down from the synth department to give their input please. This sounds like a synth designed by samplists ...

Before I got my 5k I had though I red about Motif keys emulations for the 5k
Any info on this?

Coz wrote:I bet no-one with a 5k has pushed it anywhere near its limits up to now, yet owners just seem to want more and more from it. I can understand people wanting improvements but I think you'd all be better off sitting down and making some beats while you wait!

You can say that about most of the others users in this forum regardless of which MPC (or even MV) they choose. I would dare speculate that most of the people that are talking about improvements to the MPC 5000 don't even own one.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Coz wrote:I bet no-one with a 5k has pushed it anywhere near its limits up to now, yet owners just seem to want more and more from it. I can understand people wanting improvements but I think you'd all be better off sitting down and making some beats while you wait!

You can say that about most of the others users in this forum regardless of which MPC (or even MV) they choose. I would dare speculate that most of the people that are taking about improvements to the MPC 5000 don't even own one.

so what... do you think akai would be making the improvements for the people who already bought one or rather for the people who they want to have buying their machines?

mr_debauch wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Coz wrote:I bet no-one with a 5k has pushed it anywhere near its limits up to now, yet owners just seem to want more and more from it. I can understand people wanting improvements but I think you'd all be better off sitting down and making some beats while you wait!

You can say that about most of the others users in this forum regardless of which MPC (or even MV) they choose. I would dare speculate that most of the people that are taking about improvements to the MPC 5000 don't even own one.

so what... do you think akai would be making the improvements for the people who already bought one or rather for the people who they want to have buying their machines?

Both actually. Just like any other company. Consumer reports has always been a great resource for potential buyers.

Askia Shaheed wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:You can say that about most of the others users in this forum regardless of which MPC (or even MV) they choose. I would dare speculate that most of the people that are taking about improvements to the MPC 5000 don't even own one.

so what... do you think akai would be making the improvements for the people who already bought one or rather for the people who they want to have buying their machines?

Both actually. Just like any other company. Consumer reports has always been a great resource for potential buyers.

So then stop complaining about people giving their input with the arguement that they probably dont own a 5k because even you admit that their opinion counts.

mr_debauch wrote:So then stop complaining about people giving their input with the arguement that they probably dont own a 5k because even you admit that their opinion counts.

There is a big difference between consumers, potential consumers, and trolls that spam/wreck havoc in the forum. These people do not own an MPC 5K, have never touched an MPC 5K, and will never buy one. In fact, there is no evidence that many of them actually make music. Their opinions don't count IMHO.

Which one are you?