MPC 5000 OS 2

AWW_NAWW wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:

AWW_NAWW wrote:no but I have 512mb so that means I can load my whole Proteus 2000 or my JD800 or my JP 8000 or my K2500 or my Triton or my ect ect ect... I could do that when i only had 256 let alone 192. the only way this could do is if Akai put in the audition of whole multi samples with out having to load them into memory then you got GOLD!! and you can just cherry pick the ones you want.

as far as knowing waht the machine is thats all well and good bt not eveyone here has the resources to obtain more external gear so this is it for alot of us

Please forgive me but I don't understand what you are trying to do. What do you mean by loading up your Protues 2000 or your JD800 or your JP 8000 or your K2500 or your Triton, etc, etc?

I have them converted to AkAI Pgms on my hard drive in either s6/5 files or z4/8 files.
Yeah I have a comp with just about every VST you can think of but some times I just dont feel Like using it some times I pack up the 4k and go some where remote and Im sure Im not the only one
you dig what im saying

So...have you actually ran out of memory while creating a song? And if so, what did you have loaded? How many programs did you load before your memory ran out? I am asking because I never ran out of memory while trying to create a song.

yall can speculate all you want but we won't know until os2 comes out and we try it out.It's just like these mv users talking sht about mpc 5k based on spec which don't mean sht by the way,they never tried it out thou.I hate people who make their opinions based what's on paper or what someone else have said.If i don't try machine out in this case os i won't say anything about it .

Discussion is good and To0xsick has a point that people really can`t make a reasonable judgement based on hearsay or just reading unless they get a hands on experience. Every user has to get a feel first of whether the gear works for them and at the same time realize that every users are not going to have the same experience and reaction for the gear.

For example some people may feel the gear is extremely easy to work with and move very quickly to compose the music they want to make.

Some people will have problems and feel it is very complicated cuz they don`t understand all the features and it overwhelms them.


Some people may want to do more to customize their own sounds in order to be original or distinctive from the rest.


And some people may want to have a great preset to work with to have a similar pro sounds like their peers.




There isn`t any one way just many ways of doing things and many preference as many as the numerous individual stars in the sky and the various users on this forum. Each individual has a preference to working that is as individual as the users sitting or dancing beside the unit.


My point is the real importance of discussion isn`t the gear really itself we could all have the exact same unit in a classroom like a piece of paper and pencils and be ask to draw a picture of a beautiful woman. Since there isn`t a teacher directing and imploring us to draw the woman their way we each can create the picture any way we want some of us would take longer than others to finish the picture, some of us will draw beautiful pictures, some very elementary a bit retard pics ha, ha, ha, and the rest average pics with potential.

With this scenario even if we asked for more colorful pencils, colored papers, we want to trace previous works, receive new tools beyond pens and paper like a mult-touch pads to use digital ink and our fingers to draw the results would still be the same= some great pictures, some average pictures with potential, and elementary pictures out of the class of 30.


But if the class members with the great pics shared their tips and techniques for drawing with the rest and the rest shared their visions and ideals with the great artists they can all benifits cuz they all can reach their potential.


Each individual has great ideas, vision, and potential but they made not know or understand on how to realize them.

Every great artists can`t envision everything so they seek out great ideas from others to inspire them no matter who the person just the simplest things brings the inspiration even from a child.


The root of discussion is to learn from each other to help each other even when they have a different point of view.

















































I personally feel we lose these things when we get into a group/mob mentality if you have any users fighting over which pen and paper is the greatest to draw a pic of a beautiful woman. Bare with me that is my preference when I make music to see my creation as a beautiful woman metaphorically. Each pen has sharpness, dullness, and tracabilty, each paper has surface, length, imprint ability too.

But the importance thing is the artists ability to draw the pics he or she wants to create no matter how many tools he or she has. It doesn`t make sense to argue over tools if one doesn`t know how to use them or use them well.


No use hating everyone just show them on how to use it and they too will realize hey I can do it too. It isn`t the tools it is their ability to grow.


Discussion is sharing ideas, helping each others, and giving advice.

This forum has been terrible over the past 8 months. We finally got Akai's ear and quite a few forum members almost spoiled it for us by their rude behavior and spamming every pro-MPC 5000 thread with hate mail. Remember this thread I created:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=104686&hilit=MPC+4000+like

This was the perfect opportunity for some positive feedback. In fact, there were numerous threads created just to get feedback. I don't use the MPC 4000. But I have been trying to create threads to get input from MPC 4000 users. If ALL MPC users here would have made an intelligent case for the features they want in an MPC, we all could be talking about how much we are looking forward to this new OS.

Akai wrote:
MPC5000 OS 2.0 is a free, new operating system upgrade that includes more than 25 additional improvements, many of which are developed to accommodate the specific requests of the people who use the MPC5000 every day.

Numerous feature requests from the MPC 5000 forum has been added in OS 2.0. This is due to intelligent, well thought out feedback in our feature request threads. So when will you MPC 4000 users get onboard? (if you haven't missed the boat already). If you are not for the advancement of the MPC 5000, then why antagonize the forum members whom are? So although OS 2.0 is coming soon, we are right back to where we were 8 months ago...that is, people complaining (non-MPC 5000 users) about what the OS lacks when they have done absolutely nothing...nothing positive in the forums to contribute.

Ok. I am done. Another thread jacked by non-MPC5000 users.

Askia Shaheed wrote:This forum has been terrible over the past 8 months. We finally got Akai's ear and quite a few forum members almost spoiled it for us by their rude behavior and spamming every pro-MPC 5000 thread with hate mail. Remember this thread I created:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=104686&hilit=MPC+4000+like

This was the perfect opportunity for some positive feedback. In fact, there were numerous threads created just to get feedback. I don't use the MPC 4000. But I have been trying to create threads to get input from MPC 4000 users. If ALL MPC users here would have made an intelligent case for the features they want in an MPC, we all could be talking about how much we are looking forward to this new OS.

Akai wrote:
MPC5000 OS 2.0 is a free, new operating system upgrade that includes more than 25 additional improvements, many of which are developed to accommodate the specific requests of the people who use the MPC5000 every day.

Numerous feature requests from the MPC 5000 forum has been added in OS 2.0. This is due to intelligent, well thought out feedback in our feature request threads. So when will you MPC 4000 users get onboard? (if you haven't missed the boat already). If you are not for the advancement of the MPC 5000, then why antagonize the forum members whom are? So although OS 2.0 is coming soon, we are right back to where we were 8 months ago...that is, people complaining (non-MPC 5000 users) about what the OS lacks when they have done absolutely nothing...nothing positive in the forums to contribute.

Ok. I am done. Another thread jacked by non-MPC5000 users.

Askla you may not mean it but you sound very judgemental. I don`t speak for everybody but we are all users of mpcs wanting to create music no matter the pens and paper used to draw a beautiful woman.

Let`s be neutral for a minute and concentrate on drawing the beautiful woman in our picture.


Instead a different tack how about tips are possible workarounds on how you can control the future sample parameters using your midi controller keyboards or workstation keyboards as this is the root of the so called non 5k user requests??


If you use something already you would want to keep it right and not lose the ability.

How I use it for one it that I layer different programs with one high pass filter and another low pass filter then as the sequence is playing using a like my SW1 and SW2 switch on my Korg Kontrol 49 controller I can morph the between the two layers as the sequence plays as each programs is controlled by the same controller but it has different settings and different filters. Next I assign the programs to different effects to create a different sound.


I would like to know tips to recreate this on any gear I`m working with and I think you would too.

I want to touch on three things....

1. We can only concentrate on drawing a beautiful woman (as you put it) when we get rid of the people that are only here to disrupt the MPC 5000 forum.

2. Feature request threads have been the perfect place to make a case for all your requests. This worked for JJ OS and this worked for the Akai OS.

3. When the MPC 5000 (as well as 2500) were released, I immediately started thinking about the possibilities. I immediately purchased both of them. There were only a few of us showing support here in the forums and had to fight off an army of spammers from all the other forums. These 'trolls' entered the forums..their only goal was to make us look bad and bait us into silly arguments...and it worked. Things got out of hand, and I was caught right in the middle of it. I was writing the same childish posts as these trolls. I could have ignored a lot of stuff. Tutor said I should ignore it. But I felt like I should have the freedom to network with other MPC users without the harrassment. Things didn't get any better..no moderation at all. Catz started to get banned and many helpful forum members left and never returned. This is the very definition of the impact of forum trolls. Do I sound judgemental....hell yeah! I even initiated PMs to squash these silly internet beefs. But some of the guys in the forums are only here to disrupt it. I'm sorry but I honestly believe there are more people that come here to disrupt the forum than those that actually make music.

1. We can only concentrate on drawing a beautiful woman (as you put it) when we get rid of the people that are only here to disrupt the MPC 5000 forum.

We can start by giving out tips and techniques that work that is the easiest way to
shut down any doubters just make the painting itself we can start by making it now.

2. Feature request threads have been the perfect place to make a case for all your requests. This worked for JJ OS and this worked for the Akai OS.

I never made any feature requests just tips and techniques and what I can and could not do with it. I don`t worry so a feature request so much it will come if the company listens anyway I have a direct line when I need so. But I can still do the things I want just learning tips and technquies from others regardless of what they use like tips from Damadman with a MV8000 or other users using 3k, 2xl, and other mpcs, even RS7000 it is all about the music right, not who using what???

Their only goal was to make us look bad and bait us into silly arguments...and it worked. Things got out of hand, and I was caught right in the middle of it. I was writing the same childish posts as these trolls. I could have ignored a lot of stuff. Tutor said I should ignore it. But I felt like I should have the freedom to network with other MPC users without the harrassment. Things didn't get any better..no moderation at all.

Like now the ball is in your court you can add a tip, technique or you can continue doing like before. I have seen you banned before, come back, and see you also rise to the occasion helping out on the 2500 forum and 5k forum with new users of the mpcs. However your reputation proceeds you and you guest it chaos. A discussion is helping one another to rise. There isn`t any teachers in the class just the peers, some experience, some beginners, some professinals and a few retards with nothing better off to do.

This is your chance right here to add your understanding of the mpcs on using any unit.



One can`t blame others if one doesn`t know and one can`t blame the pens and paper to draw the pics. We all know what a beautiful woman looks like when we see her, we shouldn`t focus on which paper and pen is best to draw her. Just learn how to draw using whatever at hand.


(This is what the industry loves to keep us gassed up.)

Care to share any tips with fellow forum members. And like I say if you want to shut down trolls just show them what you can do it.

I'm sorry but I honestly believe there are more people that come here to disrupt the forum than those that actually make music.

If anyone comes at you personally I will mod it, on the same on the same note if you do on to others the same as you are complaining about I have to mod you too.

Fair is fair.

I can`t learn anything new if I don`t listen to others too. I get inspired from others even when their ideas, techniques, and process are different than mine no matter what gear they use.


But I know that it isn`t the machine that will do the music. It is us to learn from each other built brother man.

OK, here is a burning question for the loop pro's: how do you people make a good loop in a level-decaying part of a sample?

So the sample starts and decays to level 0 at the end. And I want to make a loop of the part at about 2/3 of that sample. What will be the best technique to make that loop equal sounding without the "beating" of the level differences between loopstart- and endpoint?

Any hints/tips on that?

scd wrote:OK, here is a burning question for the loop pro's: how do you people make a good loop in a level-decaying part of a sample?

So the sample starts and decays to level 0 at the end. And I want to make a loop of the part at about 2/3 of that sample. What will be the best technique to make that loop equal sounding without the "beating" of the level differences between loopstart- and endpoint?

Any hints/tips on that?

I`m not an looping pro by no meaning but I have an idea, if I make a copy of the same sample cut off the attack portion on the copy and then normalize both the sustain region by setting the start and end and hitting the button.

I think I can use several steps

1 Join samples to length the sustain part.


2. Cut the tail on the first sample and butt the two samples them together.

3 Use the insert to start to join the samples together

4. Just try to loop a single cycle of the sample.


Afterwards set the looping points.

This is the first ideas that popped up quickly still needs some work though.

Blue Haze wrote:

scd wrote:OK, here is a burning question for the loop pro's: how do you people make a good loop in a level-decaying part of a sample?

So the sample starts and decays to level 0 at the end. And I want to make a loop of the part at about 2/3 of that sample. What will be the best technique to make that loop equal sounding without the "beating" of the level differences between loopstart- and endpoint?

Any hints/tips on that?

I`m not an looping pro by no meaning but I have an idea, if I make a copy of the same sample cut off the attack portion on the copy and then normalize both the sustain region by setting the start and end and hitting the button.

I think I can use several steps

1 Join samples to length the sustain part.


2. Cut the tail on the first sample and butt the two samples them together.

3 Use the insert to start to join the samples together

4. Just try to loop a single cycle of the sample.


Afterwards set the looping points.

This is the first ideas that popped up quickly still needs some work though.

Good ones! Thanks and will try that.
I was also wondering of one could use a compressor first on the looping part to equal out the levels better. I should experiment with that.

Blue Haze wrote:
I never made any feature requests just tips and techniques and what I can and could not do with it. I don`t worry so a feature request so much it will come if the company listens anyway I have a direct line when I need so. But I can still do the things I want just learning tips and technquies from others regardless of what they use like tips from Damadman with a MV8000 or other users using 3k, 2xl, and other mpcs, even RS7000 it is all about the music right, not who using what???

Again...if you would have been more helpful from an MPC 5000 perspective, the things that you imply that you want/need may have found their way into a future OS update. You create threads in the forum about the MPC 5000 doesn't have this or that in the new OS (which is putting gas on a fire) when you didn't give any input when Akai was developing this OS? Direct line? The direct line is right here in the forum as far as the MPC 5000. It has always been about the music...music that we create with MPCs...

Askia Shaheed wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:
I never made any feature requests just tips and techniques and what I can and could not do with it. I don`t worry so a feature request so much it will come if the company listens anyway I have a direct line when I need so. But I can still do the things I want just learning tips and technquies from others regardless of what they use like tips from Damadman with a MV8000 or other users using 3k, 2xl, and other mpcs, even RS7000 it is all about the music right, not who using what???

Again...if you would have been more helpful from an MPC 5000 perspective, the things that you imply that you want/need may have found their way into a future OS update. You create threads in the forum about the MPC 5000 doesn't have this or that in the new OS (which is putting gas on a fire) when you didn't give any input when Akai was developing this OS? Direct line? The direct line is right here in the forum as far as the MPC 5000. It has always been about the music...music that we create with MPCs...

There you go judging people again Askia I mostly give tips that is what I do.

You create threads in the forum about the MPC 5000 doesn't have this or that in the new OS (which is putting gas on a fire) when you didn't give any input when Akai was developing this OS

?

I don`t know what you are talking about I never started a thread about what the 5k doesn`t have.




How about a tip or two from you instead???

Then you didn't give any input when Akai was developing this OS? Direct line? The direct line is right here in the forum as far as the MPC 5000.

Wow I didn`t know I could speak directly to Mr. Sato or Mr Kimura on this site every time I call them on the phone or stop by the office they say they often visit the Japanese Akai site hmmn you got me there.



I never imply wanting ain`t updates never have and never will as long as I can make music. Plus I have alot of extra software to complete most of my needs. There is no fire now. I talk with Akai when I want so I don`t have to post in any requests in this forum. As this is MPC Tutor Site not an Official Akai sponsered forum. So we are here to help users right???


How about a tip or suggestions askia.


Hmmn are you going to attack and judge me again or post a tips?

This is exactly what I am talking about. I send you PMs trying to squash beef and you turn around and try to use it against me. This is your pattern of behavior. Dude I am through with you. You have done nothing but antagonize here. I am happy with my MPC 5000 and what OS 2.0 offers. If you don't, tell Mr. Sato or Mr Kimura and maybe they can help you. I communicate with Ms. Innomata when I need something.

Askia Shaheed wrote:This is exactly what I am talking about. I send you PMs trying to squash beef and you turn around and try to use it against me. This is your pattern of behavior. Dude I am through with you. You have done nothing but antagonize here. I am happy with my MPC 5000 and what OS 2.0 offers. If you don't, tell Mr. Sato or Mr Kimura and maybe they can help you. I communicate with Ms. Innomata when I need something.

Hmmn stop one tip???

I send you PMs trying to squash beef and you turn around and try to use it against me. This is your pattern of behavior.

What pms you haven`t send any recent pms and the one early last yr was strange?


Antagonize wow that a new one!!! You`re tripping!!!


MPC 5k is cool I would be happy to with any mpc I have on hand. I`m about helping other users on the forum in fact some of the tips and tricks for production akai staff don`t even know about. So I share tips with the users us on the forum which is why we have one.


How about a tip still once you settled down a bit.

*still trying to understand what you two are doing in japan*


out of all the places in the world.........