ALC and Havoc Likes the 5000

and other advice

http://thasence.blogspot.com/2008/08/al ... -5000.html

Dat's What's Up. I just wish the price would drop on this thang.

Well Havoc likes it anyway.

I believe Hacov and Alc has never heard the term "JJ OS".

Al uses an MPC 2500. The OS he chooses will have little to no impact on the sound of his music....IMHO.

Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

Askia Shaheed wrote:Al uses an MPC 2500. The OS he chooses will have little to no impact on the sound of his music....IMHO.

Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

Maybe not on the sound but saves a lot of time

More Time = More Beats, or even better result.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

psh. HELL no. no because its a 5k... but i mean... come on now..

Askia Shaheed wrote:Al uses an MPC 2500. The OS he chooses will have little to no impact on the sound of his music....IMHO.

Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

ALC is not using the 2500 anymore he uses the 5000 now

7 1 4 Beats wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:Al uses an MPC 2500. The OS he chooses will have little to no impact on the sound of his music....IMHO.

Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

ALC is not using the 2500 anymore he uses the 5000 now

did you confirm that elsewhere cuz that video he clearly did not claim to use the 5k. he said some other shtt in this video. DISCLAIMER FOR BUTTHEADS - I KNOW IT DOESN'T MATTER, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, OK MOM??

word!

Alchemist, to me, is a big pile of garbage. Overrated to the fullest.

And whenever the question of "beatmaker vs producer" comes up, why do all these cats put down the beatmaker? Make it seem like producer is something greater than beatmaker. Who gives a flying fuk if you are directing the sound of the song/album? You're still a beatmaker first and foremost, retards.

Unfortunately in Hiphop, the term "producer" is constantly misused and thrown around loosely. Beatmakers supply the beats and that's where their involvement stops. It's only in hiphop that a dude with a little gear tagged as a "producer" of the bat.

The fact is even when a beatmaker gets a production credit it's trumped by the Executive Producer credit. Industry types know immediately who did what just by that alone. The more appropriate badge for a beatmaker is an "Arranger". This covers the note composition which is what we call beatmaking.

Despite what most think they know, when 99% of beatmakers enter a pro environment they don't know how to shape a song, how to forge commercial quality, or what to even ask the engineer for. The mass market of affordable has way too many thinking that they are within the pro ranks when they aren't even out the rookie stages despite the cost of the gear or complexity of their rigs.

EducatedHands wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:Hav and the 5K? I can see him bangin some MOBB tracks on one....

psh. HELL no. no because its a 5k... but i mean... come on now..

Didn't you see the video? Because the 5K is what he is using now....not an MPC 4000..not an MPC 1000 w/ JJ OS. Not that it matters....

LvngDead wrote:Alchemist, to me, is a big pile of garbage. Overrated to the fullest.

And whenever the question of "beatmaker vs producer" comes up, why do all these cats put down the beatmaker? Make it seem like producer is something greater than beatmaker. Who gives a flying fuk if you are directing the sound of the song/album? You're still a beatmaker first and foremost, retards.

i dont think they're putting down the beatmaker. Instead I think they're more trying to talk UP what they do--even if it is just beatmaking. Being a great producer (to me) is more in the mind. The fact of the matter is, there are many people who can manipulate, but not necessarily do themselves, like movie directors. A good director can take some average actors and direct them to produce some really nice scenes on film, whereas a horrible director can take Tom Cruise, Jack Nicholson and Al Pacino and make a terrible movie.

A producer to me, is somewhat of a 'director' of music. A producer can never touch a keyboard, or an MPC on a track, and still be able to tell a singer "you should sing it like this" or tell the engineer "you should pan this to the left," etc, and steer the song in a direction that--without he/she--it would have never gone before. Even if they don't have the technical lingo/understanding as solid as a seasoned recording engineer, it doesn't make the raw talent in their ears any less valid. So they might not know to tell the engineer to roll off all frequences below 80hz, but they might know to simply tell him "it has too much bass."


Diddy has made some great songs (as far as music, not lyrically) in his career, and I know for a fact he wasn't cranking out each beat. Sometimes when people call him (or other producers) in, they might think a song can go further that what they've created, and are looking for someone to take them to the next step, like an interior decorator. The decorator aint building houses, but they can damn sure tell construction workers how to hook a crib up beautifully.

In the end, it's all about talent anyway. Truth be told, we all know there are some excellent beatmakers/arrangers who can't mix worth a damn. They probably can't even come up with songs, hooks or even a equally impactful switch-up in their beats. But that's where the talent of producing comes in. On the flipside, there might be a mixing engineer who knows how to make the kicks bang like never before...how to blend keys and strings with old dusty samples seamlessly....but can't make a hot beat for shit.



The moral: The label "producer" comes (or SHOULD come) with the quality of the result of what is created from your artistic direction, and the consistency and distinguishability of said quality.


It's not the gear, it's the ear.

Producer and Beatmaker battle.... are yall serious.... not badly put Moyphee... The real job of a producer says it all here:

In the music industry, a record producer (or music producer) has many roles, among them controlling the recording sessions, coaching and guiding the musicians, organizing and scheduling production budget and resources, and supervising the recording, mixing and mastering processes. This has been a major function of producers since the inception of sound recording, but in the later half of the 20th century producers also took on a wider entrepreneurial role.

The music producer could in some cases be compared to the film director in that the producer's job is to create, shape and mold a piece of music in accordance with their vision for the album.