A Comment & Question

So I pick up a Roland MV8800 at Sam Ash with a 45 day return policy. I debated on purchasing the MPC 5000 versus the Roland. Some of the folks here on the forum said purchase the Roland, it's a more equipped machine. I am now thinking I will return it and get the MPC 5000. Does the MPC have a decent and speedy processor? Does it import samples and allow you to play them across the pads assigning parts to different outputs?

I am thinking the Roland MV 8800 is being phased out.

Thanks.

[email protected] wrote:So I pick up a Roland MV8800 at Sam Ash with a 45 day return policy. I debated on purchasing the MPC 5000 versus the Roland. Some of the folks here on the forum said purchase the Roland, it's a more equipped machine. I am now thinking I will return it and get the MPC 5000. Does the MPC have a decent and speedy processor? Does it import samples and allow you to play them across the pads assigning parts to different outputs?

I am thinking the Roland MV 8800 is being phased out.

Thanks.

Bro you just got it..take some time to learn it. I learned how to do basic programming on my cousins MV in a day..sheesh. What makes you think getting the 5k is going to make things easier for you?

i wuld keep the MV

[email protected] wrote:So I pick up a Roland MV8800 at Sam Ash with a 45 day return policy. I debated on purchasing the MPC 5000 versus the Roland. Some of the folks here on the forum said purchase the Roland, it's a more equipped machine. I am now thinking I will return it and get the MPC 5000. Does the MPC have a decent and speedy processor? Does it import samples and allow you to play them across the pads assigning parts to different outputs?

I am thinking the Roland MV 8800 is being phased out.

Thanks.

Based on what you wrote...it sounds like you should stick with the MV. You already purchased it and it does what you mentioned in this thread. Is there something about it you don't like? If Roland does phase it out, that won't stop you from creating music with it. Akai has "phased-out" several MPCs over the past 20 years that are still in use today.

If you have a 45 day return you can return it, grab the MPC, try it & see the one that fits your needs.

Does it import samples and allow you to play them across the pads assigning parts to different outputs?

Of course ..

[email protected] wrote:
I am thinking the Roland MV 8800 is being phased out.

When Roland phased out the MV-8000 they stopped shipping it in early October. The only thing phased out is the MV8-OP1 card and that was dropped because Roland has dropped the R-Bus format.
The 5000 was an initial flop and still having problems so Roland won't drop the 8800 until sales slow down.

There's a LOT of people out there lovin' the 5K, including me.

That's my opinion, but then I'm an owner and user.

Poor distribution , multiple launch dates, multiple shipping dates, low sales and disappointed users = FLOP.

I have a friend that's a manger at GC and he made a good point a few months ago. The point was that he was selling out of the 5000 but it was easy being he only had 2-3 machines/month. I'd like to see anyone to make the case that the 5000 launch was any kind of success.

When the 1000 and 2500 came out it they were an instant hit and the user population grew fast and expanded the MPC user base.That's not counting what the JJ OS did fort he user base. For all but a few , the renamed 3500 was a disappointment by those Akai hoped would upgrade.

You want numbers? No problem. Count the number of actual owners in this 5000 section and ask yourself why they are less than handful of you in the time the machine was introduced. That's not to say they correct the problem.

The only solution: Akai must cut the leash on the OS so that those that really want to fix and expand it can. This way the machine would gain credibility and some much needed support.

So what about the 5000 processor speed? For the memeber here who tried the MV out, how did you find the processor speed versus the 5000? Secondly, the sound of the MV is so quiet. Thirdly, how do you send out multiple tracks out of the MV now that the expansion board is not avialable? The MPC has more outs.

Before I take the MV back, I like for a couple of you folks to tell the answers to this question. I just watched a You Tube video on the MPC 5000. It looked faster overall and easier to assign to multiple tracks.

Thanks folks.

moyphee wrote:Poor distribution , multiple launch dates, multiple shipping dates, low sales and disappointed users = FLOP.

I have a friend that's a manger at GC and he made a good point a few months ago. The point was that he was selling out of the 5000 but it was easy being he only had 2-3 machines/month. I'd like to see anyone to make the case that the 5000 launch was any kind of success.

When the 1000 and 2500 came out it they were an instant hit and the user population grew fast and expanded the MPC user base.That's not counting what the JJ OS did fort he user base. For all but a few , the renamed 3500 was a disappointment by those Akai hoped would upgrade.

You want numbers? No problem. Count the number of actual owners in this 5000 section and ask yourself why they are less than handful of you in the time the machine was introduced. That's not to say they correct the problem.

The only solution: Akai must cut the leash on the OS so that those that really want to fix and expand it can. This way the machine would gain credibility and some much needed support.

I wouldn't like to guess on Akai's consumer data.

The user population of this forum can't be used as an indication of the total number of sold units or owners.

Ah well, at least I can enjoy my 5K

'Keep the faith'

[email protected] wrote:So I pick up a Roland MV8800 at Sam Ash with a 45 day return policy. I debated on purchasing the MPC 5000 versus the Roland. Some of the folks here on the forum said purchase the Roland, it's a more equipped machine. I am now thinking I will return it and get the MPC 5000. Does the MPC have a decent and speedy processor? Does it import samples and allow you to play them across the pads assigning parts to different outputs?

I am thinking the Roland MV 8800 is being phased out.

Thanks.

Hey PJ - I'd say do your homework and try both machines - there's actually a lot to consider here - there's features and specification also feel and workflow.

What's right for you will likely be wrong for the next guy - I'd definately say try both machines before making your final choice and pick the one you feel best suits your style.

I don't own an MV, but I did demo one, as I used to really dig Roland gear. (since moved to yamaha for my synths and Akai for my sampling needs)

I'd previously used the MPC1000 and the MPC2500 and the thing that hits you immediately about the MPC is that the workflow is second to none. It's just all there laid out a few clicks and your chopping samples and laying down grooves.
Everything feels intuitive and fast. I recall making a few beats with those earlier MPCs right out the box and then opening the manual later to learn the lower level functions.

That workflow is still there on the new flagship MPC 5000 - it's just fast and a joy to use.

I found the MV didn't have anywhere near the same slick workflow although I'll admit that perhaps that's because I was already used to working with MPCs (although a common complaint on the MV is the labour intensive workflow and having to dig deep through menus to find what you need - sometimes even for the simple things). Maybe Roland will put that right in their next model.

I'm not gonna even attempt to advise on the right machine for you - try them both and YOU decide.

Good luck dude!

moyphee wrote:When the 1000 and 2500 came out it they were an instant hit and the user population grew fast and expanded the MPC user base.

My comments:
It seems you are now making things up in an attempt to prove some point. The MPC 1000 and 2500 were not instant hits in this forum. The same is true for the MPC 4000. Most recently, when the MPC 2500 forum was created, it looked pretty much like the present 5K forum. Anyone can look this info up for themselves.

My Questions:
Is there a valid reason why you frequent this forum to tell the 5K users that we use a product that you don't like? Why do you care about the launch dates of the 5K?

I'd respond to you Jabronie but quite frankly your just not that important!

moyphee wrote:I'd respond to you Jabronie but quite frankly your just not that important!

Does that count as a response?

You're right , there is a bit of a conflict there.