problems loading .akp programs

I have a huge collection of sample programs in the akai .akp program format.
all the .akp drum programs load fine.
None of the .akp keygroup programs load correctly.
I have an akai z4 sampler-when I load them into the z4, they play fine.
when i load the same programs into the 5k, they playback at the wrong pitches-
it's all out of wack- for example- i loaded miroslav violins 11VS-soft from miroslav string ensembles 2.0-
into both z4 and 5k- in order for 5k to play back pitches correctly,I had to redo the pitches for all the keygroups-
going UP the keyboard the keygroups had to be detuned like this: +3/0/-2/-4/-7/-10/-14/-15/-17/-20/-24/-26/-30/-33/-36/ and the 5k wont detune below 36, so the highest keygroup is out ( i spose i could now re-pitch the entire prog?)
anyway-i havent yet tried to figure if other .akp files from other cd's have to be re-pitched with those #S or not-

is anyone else having this issue? I am no scientist so plz go easy

yes-i re-initialized after updating

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See how these Z4 samples load into your MPC 5000 and your Z4 sampler, i found a site with this free download: http://roberto.insworld.co.uk/downloads ... 1%20Z8.zip

4dahaterz wrote:See how these Z4 samples load into your MPC 5000 and your Z4 sampler, i found a site with this free download: http://roberto.insworld.co.uk/downloads ... 1%20Z8.zip

that .akp doesn't play correctly on the 5k OR the z4 .... did it play for you?

is anyone loading multisampled .akp keygroup progs successfully?

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yeah, that one didnt play right!!! But i dont have any other Z4 Samples so i dont know whats up... you might wanna wait until SCD, Zuckwheat, or Askia check it out, and maybe they can provide you with some help

If the akp program didn't load correctly in the Z8/4, than best bet is that it won't load correctly in the 5K.

I mostly have Akai S1000/3000 programs. I have been able to load them successfully. I did have a problem with a few programs being out of tune. But after further investigation, it wasn't the MPC but the actual programs which was suprising because they were commericial samples/programs.

Askia Shaheed wrote:If the akp program didn't load correctly in the Z8/4, than best bet is that it won't load correctly in the 5K.

I mostly have Akai S1000/3000 programs. I have been able to load them successfully. I did have a problem with a few programs being out of tune. But after further investigation, it wasn't the MPC but the actual programs which was suprising because they were commericial samples/programs.

See... Problem answered

4dahaterz wrote:yeah, that one didnt play right!!! But i dont have any other Z4 Samples so i dont know whats up... you might wanna wait until SCD, Zuckwheat, or Askia check it out, and maybe they can provide you with some help

"I have an akai z4 sampler-when I load them into the z4, they play fine.
when i load the same programs into the 5k, they playback at the wrong pitches-"

ya- it would be nice to hear from someone who actually has some .akp multisampled keygroup programs.....and a z4/z8/4k or s6000/s5000 to compare.........

anyone?
thanks!
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4dahaterz wrote:

Askia Shaheed wrote:If the akp program didn't load correctly in the Z8/4, than best bet is that it won't load correctly in the 5K.

I mostly have Akai S1000/3000 programs. I have been able to load them successfully. I did have a problem with a few programs being out of tune. But after further investigation, it wasn't the MPC but the actual programs which was suprising because they were commericial samples/programs.

See... Problem answered

LMAO!!!!

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Sorry...I misread your earlier post. If you have some problem keygroup programs, upload them and provide a link for download.

Askia Shaheed wrote:Sorry...I misread your earlier post. If you have some problem keygroup programs, upload them and provide a link for download.

heya-
basically, they ALL are problems- ANY .akp multisampled keygroup programs load with
this incorrect pitching.
I am asking if anyone has some that load correctly into the 5k AS WELL AS .akp native samplers-


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4dahaterz wrote:See how these Z4 samples load into your MPC 5000 and your Z4 sampler, i found a site with this free download: http://roberto.insworld.co.uk/downloads ... 1%20Z8.zip

That won't play in a Z4/8, MPC4000, S5/6000 or MPC5000V2 because all the samples' root notes are C3 so the tuning will be all over the place. I don't know where that sample set came from but it is, errmmmm, not at all good. It also sounds like samples af a not very good sampled piano.

I have been loading S5/6000 and Z4/8 stuff into my (newly updated) MPC5k V2 and they are fine tuning wise (a bit of tweaking needed here and there for envelopes perhaps but nothing untoward).

You can try some HERE. They are all fine.

If you are loading any S1/2/3/5/6000/Z4/8 samples and they're not playing properly, I suspect a problem with the source program, not the MPC5k.

hollowsun wrote:That won't play in a Z4/8, MPC4000, S5/6000 or MPC5000V2 because all the samples' root notes are C3 so the tuning will be all over the place. I don't know where that sample set came from but it is, errmmmm, not at all good. It also sounds like samples af a not very good sampled piano.

I have been loading S5/6000 and Z4/8 stuff into my (newly updated) MPC5k V2 and they are fine tuning wise (a bit of tweaking needed here and there for envelopes perhaps but nothing untoward).

You can try some HERE. They are all fine.

If you are loading any S1/2/3/5/6000/Z4/8 samples and they're not playing properly, I suspect a problem with the source program, not the MPC5k.

Thanks for the help hollowsun... they actually came from another Akai forum... whats funny is, i think you are even on that site

here is the link: http://akaipro5k6kuser.proboards30.com/ ... hread=1237

hollowsun wrote:

4dahaterz wrote:See how these Z4 samples load into your MPC 5000 and your Z4 sampler, i found a site with this free download: http://roberto.insworld.co.uk/downloads ... 1%20Z8.zip

That won't play in a Z4/8, MPC4000, S5/6000 or MPC5000V2 because all the samples' root notes are C3 so the tuning will be all over the place. I don't know where that sample set came from but it is, errmmmm, not at all good. It also sounds like samples af a not very good sampled piano.

I have been loading S5/6000 and Z4/8 stuff into my (newly updated) MPC5k V2 and they are fine tuning wise (a bit of tweaking needed here and there for envelopes perhaps but nothing untoward).

You can try some HERE. They are all fine.

If you are loading any S1/2/3/5/6000/Z4/8 samples and they're not playing properly, I suspect a problem with the source program, not the MPC5k.

hey Steve- nice to hear from you!
so what i am finding is that the .akp's from the my old Hollowsun archive, the akai supplied .akp native discs, and any native .akp loads ok-
what i am wondering is- s1000/3000 discs that i converted using cdXtract over the years seem to be the problem-
where the z4 loads them ok,and see's the samples original pitches, the 5k see's them all at c3-
I dont have a cd drive in my 5k to test with, but i think maybe the conversion from 1000 to akp, then into 5k is messing something up- but maybe the 5k correctly imports s1000 from the original discs directly?
if someone has some old akai discs and a discdrive in the 5k, maybe you could investigate/comment on this?
thanks for the help!
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