Help with converting!

Hello all, I am having a hard time converting songs back to a sequence. Just want the same sounds on the same track so I can go out the 8 direct outs into pro tools. The tracks in each of my sequences are virtually the same instrument-wise (I make my entire song as 1 looped sequence. Then I copy that sequence a bunch of times and add different mutes to the tracks in each of the sequences to make each sequence different.) So.... if i have a kick drum on track 1 sequence 1 then all the rest of my sequences will have that same kick on track 1 as well (but parts of it may be muted differently). When I go to convert everything still gets F'd up lol. I've tried everything i can think of (ref to 1st seq, muted tracks ignored and merged on midi). I'm pretty sure merged on midi was the one lol, Do I need to set it up like track 1=midi 1a, track 2=midi 2a, and so on......Do I need to do this for EVERY single sequence as well (would take lots of time, my songs may have around 17 or so sequences-same sounds in each seq though). Just wanna get each sound back on its own individual track. Also I only record 1 sound per track, I keep it all seperate I do use more than one program in each sequence though (same program would be on same track in each sequence still....)Anybody know what I'm doing wrong? Thanx a mill!

i do mine songs the same way? i put each sound on its on individual track then just copy the sequences and mute out different tracks to add the drops and whatnot. but im not exactly sure what your question is...

After making a song with those squences, how do you convert that song back to one long sequence and have it play exactly the same?

RAGTOPROY wrote:After making a song with those squences, how do you convert that song back to one long sequence and have it play exactly the same?

There are 64 tracks, when putting your sequence together put your patterns on separate tracks especially if you have all 4 midis out going to sound modules. So when you combine your sequences into song there are no conflicts. That’s one way.

Another way if you have drums and instrument patterns going out to the same midi source, make sure they are not playing at the sametime it will cause midi conflict on different sequences, it is best that you set same instrument on a separate channel on your
Sound module.

When creating song use the mute tracks ignored.

Do not use the same track on diffrent sequences unless using the same program.

I actually do have each pattern (sound/instrument) on its own track. I copy that sequence a bunch of times to make my song (muting different tracks on each sequence) so each sequence has the same structure track wise. Example: track 1 in every sequence is kick drum-program 1, all track 2s are hi hats-program 3...... So everything really IS tracked out seperately but it still sounds different when converting the song back.

RAGTOPROY wrote:I actually do have each pattern (sound/instrument) on its own track. I copy that sequence a bunch of times to make my song (muting different tracks on each sequence) so each sequence has the same structure track wise. Example: track 1 in every sequence is kick drum-program 1, all track 2s are hi hats-program 3...... So everything really IS tracked out seperately but it still sounds different when converting the song back.

That's not what he said.
What he said was

There are 64 tracks, when putting your sequence together put your patterns on separate tracks especially if you have all 4 midis out going to sound modules. So when you combine your sequences into song there are no conflicts. That’s one way.

He means use different tracks for each pattern so no pattern use a track that another track is using.
For example you could make each pattern 16 long and set it up like this
Pattern 1 would use tracks 1-12
Pattern 2 would use tracks 13-24
Pattern 3 would use tracks 25-36
Pattern 4 would use tracks 37-48
Pattern 5 would use tracks 49-60

He meant no overlapping tracks.

But my sequences (patterns i think u call them) each have over 17 tracks in them. THEN I usually have at least 15 or so sequences (patterns) so using that method 64 tracks wouldnt be enough. Running 17 sequences with 15 or so tracks in each I would need over 255 tracks if everything was on its own track. Thats not gonna work lol