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By ssyniu Sun Apr 21, 2013 11:05 pm
Could anyone tell me what proces need to be done to make sample lifted from vinyl soud nice and exiting
I know that I need to EQ(any tips for example what frequencies I need to boost for hip hop ) or compression

Step by step what need to be done

what does it mean balancing the sample with EQ
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By -niN Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:04 pm
best settings for the Compressor ist to Turn the threshold all the Way Down. -48dB I think... Ratio to 99:1
Attack Time to 00 and Release to 99.
Go from there... And Listen what you hear...
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By wellfunk Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:20 pm
EQ is such a big field, it's hard to find an exact use for it on every type of music. What needs to be understood in basic is that in all music you usually divide the EQ up in 3 big parts: You have Low, Mid (mostly categorized in low-mid and hi-mid), and then you have High. These sort of represent the type of sound in that part of the EQ: :popcorn:

Low: This is all about BASS right here, if you are looking for bass you WILL find it here :mrgreen: and who doesn't love bass right? Kick drum as well ofc... everything that goes BOOOOM!

Mid: This part is about a LOT of stuff... but I think I can sort of nail it down to two big areas. You got percussive sounds, sort of the hit in all percussive sounds here. Snare for example fills up a big part of the mid. And then you have "melodic" sounds. Imagine the melodies in a song, those are found in the Mid. Vocals, guitar and horns fill up this part.

High: This is all about "Ssssss". The highest frequencies are important to get a sense of clarity and closeness to the sound. Cymbals, hi-hats, sweeps all fill up this part. SsSsSSsssss :smoker:


I can give you some advice with the EQ for producing hip hop to get started:

Say you have sampled a track where you really dig the bass line... but SH!T there's a hi-hat on the track at the same time that you don't want because you already have a hi-hat on a drum track. Hey no problem! Just put an EQ on the sample, change the freq on the High parameter to like 1k-2k Hz, and then push the gain down. Now you should start having a bass line without the hi-hat. :)

Say you have sampled a drum break, but since it's "just" soul it doesn't bang hard enough. What you might need then is to boost the kick and the snare. So the kick is in the Low section sort of like 200 Hz and below, gain it up and you should hear the boom coming out a lot more. For the snare, this is a little bit harder since different tracks have different snares that sounds different. However you usually find some "crack" in the snare at around 1.5-3 kHz. Try to gain it and see if it brings out the snare. :nod:

That's all for now, ask if you want some more advice. I also want to add that producers like Dr Dre doesn't have real hard ass bangin drums because he boosts the f*ck out of him drums. Dr Dre is a delicate chef! He carefully work his EQ to find the right frequencies to gain and lower. Think of it like spices, too much salt? nah I don't dig that. Not enough pepper? let's boost that.

It's a long post but I hope it helps =)
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By Ill-Green Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:37 pm
Listen to real Hip Hop and pay attention to what frequencies are mostly used. What you thought? That the machine was gonna make it all easy and cozy for you? You buggin'. You eating too much gun powder. An EQ is all you need bent and squat down on your lap as you finger her bottom end and tickle her highs.
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By wellfunk Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:48 pm
Ill-Green wrote:Listen to real Hip Hop and pay attention to what frequencies are mostly used. What you thought? That the machine was gonna make it all easy and cozy for you? You buggin'. You eating too much gun powder. An EQ is all you need bent and squat down on your lap as you finger her bottom end and tickle her highs.


Can't agree more. Pay attention to what you listen to and you'll figure it out.
By ssyniu Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:46 am
That's grate Well Funk so Eq is the weapon of choice to make my sample sound the way i want it by boosting or reducing frequencies.
What about compression what is compression where need to be applied.
I was listening recently Dr.Dre still dre and I did noticetthat the kick is so tiny.
I did beat recently and kick and bassline didnt agree with eachother so I removed frequencies 0-60 from kick ,but kick and bass still didn't sound like one.
What do you think what i did wrong they both are in the same note.
Last edited by ssyniu on Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By reeloy Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:25 am
...man, you're asking for an engineer lesson here...

basic rule for all styles is...

allways....

there is sub....22 hz to 60 hz....everything under 20 is just rumble mud that steals energy from all the rest to push for real......
there is low end....60 hz to 180 hz...allmost any signal got frequency parts here...make sure to get rid of it, if a sound don't need it....snares for example, specially when the come from vinyl got lots of it here, but usually don't need it....
there are low mids....180 hz to 300 hz...here's the real mud part....clean up....
there are high mids...300 hz up to 1000.....the most important range....here happens the most important information such as vocals and stuff.....
the are highs.....everthing up to 8000....the clear and sharpness overall...
and there is the air band.....everthing above....the shine and glam range....

make sure all your elements in your track don't compete in the exact same frequency area....and for each area there is a clear order of importance....

most bad mistakes happen in the sub and low end....if you got a muddy overpushed low end that is not separated from the sub you're out....

your kik can lay under the bass....or vice versa.....but real punch comes only if you define for each element it's own range and leave room for them to breathe....

and to make this decisions IS the job of a producer.....no one can tell you in general nor make that decision for you....

and learning never ends here.....so keep going....and be aware of the act that it's a long way and only YOUR ears can tell you where to go....
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By wellfunk Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:24 am
Compression is used to give you a little more control of what happens with your sounds. A snare is a very loud instrument, but sometimes when you put a snare in your mix it might feel weak and sort of disappears in the music. To put it simple you can do two things: Either you reduce the volume of everything else in the mix until you start hearing the snare. Oooooor... You compress the snare. What happens then is the level of the snare stay the same, but the whole sound get louder, if that makes sense... Try it out yourself. Loop a snare while you play around with your compressor, and change the threshold. You should hear how the sound gets fatter.

As for your kick and bass. If you feel the kick is disappearing under you bass, it could mean a lot of things, but try to put the bass down a little to begin with. Then you could also try to gain some mid in the kick, if you find the right spot it might give you a punchier sound.