By Romanp
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:19 am
I have been testing Sync of an Alesis HD24XR, MPC5000 and Motif XF.
As detailed in my other thread non of them are usable as sync masters.
The MPC5000 and Motif XF sync perfectly when slaved to Digital Performer as the MIDI beat clock master. My 8th note hi-hat references are tight like one hi-hat and I can navigate to any song position bar/measure in DP and the MPC and Motif chase/follow to the same bar. Usable!
This proves that the MPC and Motif are capable of slaving to MID beat clock.
So when I set the MPC5000 as MIDI beat clock master and the Motif XF as slave and the Motif is slightly late and the delay or sync offset is different each time I start the master, I have to conclude that the MPC5000 MIDI clock generator is not in sync with it's own timing grid. Because otherwise the Motif would have a consistent start time and latency. Because both hardware sequencers have proven they can reliably follow beat clock.
The varying delay in sync when either the MPC or Motif are MIDI clock master shows that the generation of the MIDI clock is inconsistent in start time.
My MPC60II has a 'shift early' by up to 20 ms setting when it is a MIDI clock slave. Brilliant! If the master had a consistent MIDI clock start time then the small latency of about 2-3ms could be compensated for t=with this 'shift early' feature.
I can't believe others aren't wanting to sync an MPC to another hardware sequencer with MIDI beat clock like my scenario. This unusable inconsistent MIDI clock generation from the MPC5000 and the Motif XF as well should be loudly protested and Akai and Yamaha should listen.
Imagine having these boxes that are made from precious materials of the earth actually be usable in a typical sync scenario. Surely that would make them useful enduring valuable music tools. And bolster the reputation of Akai and Yamaha.
I just want to play/program drums, switch the patterns live and have 960PPQN and quantise strength. And usable sync.
I don't need the synth or the audio tracks.
They also need to add the 'shift early' feature when slaved to MIDI clock to compensate for the latency.
As detailed in my other thread non of them are usable as sync masters.
The MPC5000 and Motif XF sync perfectly when slaved to Digital Performer as the MIDI beat clock master. My 8th note hi-hat references are tight like one hi-hat and I can navigate to any song position bar/measure in DP and the MPC and Motif chase/follow to the same bar. Usable!
This proves that the MPC and Motif are capable of slaving to MID beat clock.
So when I set the MPC5000 as MIDI beat clock master and the Motif XF as slave and the Motif is slightly late and the delay or sync offset is different each time I start the master, I have to conclude that the MPC5000 MIDI clock generator is not in sync with it's own timing grid. Because otherwise the Motif would have a consistent start time and latency. Because both hardware sequencers have proven they can reliably follow beat clock.
The varying delay in sync when either the MPC or Motif are MIDI clock master shows that the generation of the MIDI clock is inconsistent in start time.
My MPC60II has a 'shift early' by up to 20 ms setting when it is a MIDI clock slave. Brilliant! If the master had a consistent MIDI clock start time then the small latency of about 2-3ms could be compensated for t=with this 'shift early' feature.
I can't believe others aren't wanting to sync an MPC to another hardware sequencer with MIDI beat clock like my scenario. This unusable inconsistent MIDI clock generation from the MPC5000 and the Motif XF as well should be loudly protested and Akai and Yamaha should listen.
Imagine having these boxes that are made from precious materials of the earth actually be usable in a typical sync scenario. Surely that would make them useful enduring valuable music tools. And bolster the reputation of Akai and Yamaha.
I just want to play/program drums, switch the patterns live and have 960PPQN and quantise strength. And usable sync.
I don't need the synth or the audio tracks.
They also need to add the 'shift early' feature when slaved to MIDI clock to compensate for the latency.