Live 8 sync issues with 2kxl

hey guys. i have recently made the jump from solely working on the 2kxl to incorporating ableton live 8 to my set up. i purchased the tutorial and went through the whole book and learned an awful lot.

one problem i am having is syncing the two together when it comes to tracking. when i set the mpc to master in midi clock i am having no joy. i have done everything the tutorial says...turn on metronome on both mpc and live 8 and adjust the midi clock sync delay. but it takes a while to sync...in fact at the beginning it is all over the place completely.

this is the same for mpc set as master on MTC.

i know i can put a few empty bars at the beginning if i am recording a full song. but i am recording sequences and would like to use them on the fly.

the best sync i have been able to achieve is with live 8 as master on midi clock. the metronomes are very well locked together but the mpc seems to start a fraction later than live 8. why is this? i have actually recorded the same kick pattern 3 times to compare and every time they start at slightly different times. as a result, when i loop the pattern on live 8 it is definitely not as tight as when i listen to it direct from mpc.

any ideas what is happening? cheers .

I don't know if this is of any help, I copied it from a thread at Ableton's forum. The user had a similar issue.

"Try to use the "external instrument" device from the device browser. This will take care about the latency compensation. Load it onto a MIDI track and set it up to receive audio from your external hardware device. Make sure the track has no track delay and also set it's "MONITOR" switch to the OFF position. Then adjust the MIDI clock sync offset in Live's MIDI preferences until it runs in sync. Once you have set it up that way."

https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=143297

Hope that helps some. I'm actually about to set up a 2500 and 4000 with Live. I may try my XL too. Maybe after that I could offer more suggestions provided I have minimal to no issues setting mine up.

Brilliant. I'll give that a try. Cheers