Tutorial: Using Logic Pro 8 With Your MPC4000

Blue Haze wrote:My two cents to this great thread by Clint

I setup my autoload page to include a input object for my 4k metronome so it makes it easy to sequence from the 4k.

Just go to the environment section create an input object set to stereo or mono select the audio input on your interface and go back to your 4k and assign your metronome output from there. Using the input object you can hear the metronome of the 4k when you record your sequences on the 4k without worry to much about latency. Plus I usually set Logic audio buffer between 256 to 512 on my Mac G4 just for midi recording. I increase the setting as I build up the audio instruments to compensate.


This is using Logic 7 of course those. I have Logic 8 on my laptop but I intend to buy a new desktop in the future to use 8 on.

I also work with Digi002 too. Doing everything inside for me at least sounds alot nicer.

Like Clint said the possibilities are limitless.

im trying to create an input object in environment using logic 9, but cant seem to get it, can you explain more in detail how to to that...thanks

manny0888 wrote:

Blue Haze wrote:My two cents to this great thread by Clint

I setup my autoload page to include a input object for my 4k metronome so it makes it easy to sequence from the 4k.

Just go to the environment section create an input object set to stereo or mono select the audio input on your interface and go back to your 4k and assign your metronome output from there. Using the input object you can hear the metronome of the 4k when you record your sequences on the 4k without worry to much about latency. Plus I usually set Logic audio buffer between 256 to 512 on my Mac G4 just for midi recording. I increase the setting as I build up the audio instruments to compensate.


This is using Logic 7 of course those. I have Logic 8 on my laptop but I intend to buy a new desktop in the future to use 8 on.

I also work with Digi002 too. Doing everything inside for me at least sounds alot nicer.

Like Clint said the possibilities are limitless.

im trying to create an input object in environment using logic 9, but cant seem to get it, can you explain more in detail how to to that...thanks

Everything changed since Logic 9 version


Input Channel Strip
You can only create input channel strip objects in the Environment. In general, you will not need to do so, as all audio hardware inputs are automatically seen by audio channel strips, and can be monitored and recorded.

Input channel strips are primarily included for compatibility with earlier versions of Logic Pro, and for use with certain audio hardware devices. The input channel strip allows you to directly route and control signals from your audio hardware’s inputs. Once an input channel strip is assigned to an audio channel strip, it can be monitored and recorded directly into Logic Pro, along with its effect plug-ins.

The signal is processed, inclusive of plug-ins even while Logic Pro is not playing. In other words, input channel strips can behave just like external hardware processors. Aux sends can be used pre- or post-fader.

Input channel strips can be used as live inputs that can stream audio signals from external sources (such as MIDI synthesizers and sound modules) into a stereo mix (by bouncing an output channel strip).


This is what you need to do in Logic 9 hope it helps you.

Note: An alternative to using input channel strips in this way is the use of the I/O plug-in; you can also click the Input Monitoring button on an audio channel strip and choose the input(s) you want to monitor or record via the Input slot.

Everything changed since Logic 9 version


yea im seeing that for alot of stuff too, and its really what throwing me off, im reading old post, and there are new ways of doing this stuff, this is one, as well as the entire setup with mpc and logic, im told now that i dont even need to use beat mapping......

This is what you need to do in Logic 9 hope it helps you.
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Note: An alternative to using input channel strips in this way is the use of the I/O plug-in; you can also click the Input Monitoring button on an audio channel strip and choose the input(s) you want to monitor or record via the Input slot.



hey haze, ive given this a try still unable to hear my mpcs metronome out of my laptop also when I change instruments in logic and change the channel on the mpc to to the same number the instruments arent changing so the problem I'm having is when recording, i record on track one using one instrument then when i go to track two in logic it changes the original sound, basically w.e track is record enabled first that is the instrument its using....how can I get the changes correspond and i can use multiple intruments

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ya help me with this.

shimmyshimmy wrote:http://mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=127019
ya help me with this.

Sorted.

Works great but I'm still having trouble with timing, it seems to be a slight delay...any idea on what could be going wrong?

dellis4969 wrote:Works great but ...seems to be a slight delay...any idea on what could be going wrong?

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Just an update:

I came across this video posted in another thread, it's only been up a month or so but it explains my tutorial method pretty well.

http://www.atlantalogicprofessionals.co ... RIALS.html

Check out the rest of the site if you are a Logic user, you're sure to find something of interest.

dope video, but is there a way to do this but recording into logic as I'm sequencing on the mpc? I just don't want to use logics instruments I also want my records to be in logic....but using the mpcs sequencers and other features etc...

manny0888 wrote:dope video, but is there a way to do this but recording into logic as I'm sequencing on the mpc? I just don't want to use logics instruments I also want my records to be in logic....but using the mpcs sequencers and other features etc...

Sorry, don't understand what you mean or what you're trying to do.

What is it exactly, break it down...

im trying to seq on my mpc2500 but have what i seq put in my logic....not sure if this is even possible but.....

for example i start on a track with and on track one im seq a kick drum on my mpc (4bar loop) i want to be able to set my logic to a four bar loop and as im sequencing on my mpc that kick drum is also recording in logic and so forth and so on....so basically i want to use the mpcs features to record in logic....hope that was clear enough

clint246clint wrote:Speaking of metronomes, when you record the MPC's midi output into Logic all the MPC's timing fluctuations, tempo changes and swing settings will be preserved providing Logic's quantize function is off on all midi channels being recorded. Because of this, dont expect the metronome in Logic to be in time - even if you try to line your beats to the grid.

Therefore, once recorded you may find it difficult to align (drag) the MPC sequence with the grid in Logic. Of course, if you programmed the whole beat in the MPC this doesn't matter but if you later decide to add more midi tracks from within Logic itself you will benefit from having a useable metronome and grid in the program.

Use the BEATMAP function in Logic (read your manual!) to sort this out, its easy to do. I wont go into detail about what to do as the manual explains it well. Use hits (or notes) which you know were exactly on the beat when you programmed the MPC and start from the very first note in your beat whatever it is!

Beatmapping allows you to preserve the MPC's groove (timing variations) on additional midi tracks recorded in Logic so that they sound as if they were also recorded on the MPC. It creates what is known as a 'groove template', thus allowing you to edit, copy and paste midi regions around like you normally would in a DAW without messing with your track alignment. The Logic metronome will also now be in pefect time, without moving any notes as if by magic!

For the techs out there, Logic does this by creating subtle tempo changes that put the Logic sequencer in time with your MPC notes without moving them. A look at the Logic tempo track will clearly show the timing variations of the MPC which has its own natural 'swing'. Rock-solid it aint but its more natural sounding than a rigid DAW sequencer and is one of the main reasons why we all love the sound of them.......

This was posted on the first page of the thread.

If you don't understand what was written or find it too difficult, record your MPC midi into Logic in a LINEAR manner (without any looping) also know as tape-recorder style.

1. Arm tracks and begin recording in Logic
2. Hit play on the MPC, play until your whole sequence/ song is recorded.
3. Stop recording in Logic.
4. Align tracks if necessary.

I still can't get it to work. I tried to follow the steps, but I guess I am too slow to figure it out LOL. Lost me when you mentioned INSPECTOR in the arrange window. Please help... how do you highlight all the tracks and what do you mean by Track 1 = midi control 1? Please help.

bleuwaterz wrote:I tried to follow the steps, but I guess I am too slow to figure it out LOL... Lost me when you mentioned INSPECTOR in the arrange window.

Read the instructions slowly and follow them exactly as written.

If you don't know what the INSPECTOR is I suggest you stare at the Logic main screen for a week.

Where is the information and settings for each track?

Yes the INSPECTOR is on the left of the main screen, but there is an option to show/ hide it.