Sub-forum for discussion about the DAWs and mobile apps that you use with your MPCs
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By rookie Thu Jul 14, 2011 10:40 pm
some people gotta a dongle on there house connected to the police station,but noooo not on my computer though :lol: I think some of us need to go to some poor country and discuss issue's with the native's.they would be like you gotta house and a car :shock: and how many computer's :lol: 1 piece of our equipment can feed a village,and we trippin' about a dongle.like A.I. said practice????practice??????
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By Upright Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:39 am
kingrome_1 wrote:Besides from getting Record all we get is three new fx devices?



Yeah....I was gonna mention that. Reason is now Record and Reason.
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By DJ Hellfire Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:51 am
Upright wrote:@Hellfire have you looked into ASIO4ALL? You'd probably still want to use the m-box micro for the volume as you mentioned but I'm running ASIO4ALL on my laptop with Reason and Sonar 8 and I'm getting the same latency I get on my i7 desktop which is 128 on the buffer size. My laptop isn't the greatest and occasionally I have to bump the buffer up to 256 but there is ABSOLUTELY no noticed latency and no interface needed. Just wanted to throw that out there.



Yeah, it's required to run Pro Tools 9 without hardware. It sucks because in order to change the buffer setting, Pro Tools has to be completely shut down and rebooted, where as with the Mbox, I can just change the buffer, wait 2 seconds for the change to take effect and keep working. I haven't tried ASIO4ALL with Reason though. I'll try it now though!


EDIT:
Yeah, you're right. ASIO4ALL does work good with Reason. Plays perfectly at a buffer of 64! Good shit!
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By DJ Hellfire Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:53 am
rookie wrote:some people gotta a dongle on there house connected to the police station,but noooo not on my computer though :lol: I think some of us need to go to some poor country and discuss issue's with the native's.they would be like you gotta house and a car :shock: and how many computer's :lol: 1 piece of our equipment can feed a village,and we trippin' about a dongle.like A.I. said practice????practice??????



When you spend your hard earned money on something, you deserve the right to be picky!
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By mr_debauch Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:51 am
DJ Hellfire wrote:
rookie wrote:some people gotta a dongle on there house connected to the police station,but noooo not on my computer though :lol: I think some of us need to go to some poor country and discuss issue's with the native's.they would be like you gotta house and a car :shock: and how many computer's :lol: 1 piece of our equipment can feed a village,and we trippin' about a dongle.like A.I. said practice????practice??????



When you spend your hard earned money on something, you deserve the right to be picky!



that's a great quote for the pirate bay comment section :lol:
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By masek93 Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:32 am
i would buy reason IF!!.....it enables VST annnnnddd a built in sampler cause i hate paying seperate for ReCycle which IMO is retarded and a shet load of money. One of the big reasons why i stick to ableton and i might move to Logic when i get a macbookpro, which i hear its wayyyyy better then Reason
By KevWestBeats Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:27 am
Nym wrote:show goodwill to your customers and it will be returned.

No it wont. Most people are selfish jerks who only care about how they can personally get ahead. In an ideal world your situation would work but its clear that over a 10 year period of time that it hasn't. I personally hate the dongle but I understand why its there. The dongle has been around since 2009 and has not been cracked yet. I think they have every right to try to protect their investment.
By KevWestBeats Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:29 am
masek93 wrote:i would buy reason IF!!.....it enables VST annnnnddd a built in sampler cause i hate paying seperate for ReCycle which IMO is retarded and a shet load of money. One of the big reasons why i stick to ableton and i might move to Logic when i get a macbookpro, which i hear its wayyyyy better then Reason

The NNXT has been there and its modeled after the asr10. And as of Reason 5 the samplers can sample. You never really needed Recycle anyway.
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By MPC-Tutor Mon Jul 18, 2011 9:38 am
KevWestBeats wrote:
Nym wrote:show goodwill to your customers and it will be returned.

I think they have every right to try to protect their investment.


The problem is that dongles (or any form of DRM) do not protect their investment, because it wrongly assumes that if a crack doesn't exist, somehow all these file sharers will suddenly cough up £450 and pay for the software. I wonder how many file sharers have bought a copy of Record, just because there's no crack for it? Not many, because these guys don't buy anything other than VPN subscriptions and big hard drives.

Instead, they just move on to a different piece of software.

Meanwhile, legitimate customers are inconvenienced for the sake of the few 'converted' pirates the dongle brings in. It's head in the sand stuff IMO - it all goes back to the initial emotional reaction all content creators get when they realise their stuff is pirated - 'My god, how dare they get my stuff for free, I must do anything and everything to stop them!'. I got this the first time I discovered my entire web site content going for free on various file sharing sites. But I eventually realised these were not lost sales, and there was no way I was going to introduce any DRM that would inconvenience my valued customers even by 1%.
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By selecta jo Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:00 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:I eventually realised these were not lost sales, and there was no way I was going to introduce any DRM that would inconvenience my valued customers even by 1%.


@tutor: big thumbs up!!! 8)

peace, jo
By goldslum Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:24 pm
is this 6 pages about dongles? it's never really been an issue for me to plug the record dongle in. you don't have to keep it in. it's simply to start up the program. you can unplug it right when the program starts and plug it back in when you want to have extra exporting features. if that's why you guys aren't interested in reason 6 then that's definitely your prerogative. i got reason/record education version for $250. and i'm glad because reason 6 is a little pricey for only having a couple additions. reason and logic is a cool combo. got logic 9 free. whatchu know about that?