Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By Coz Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:21 am
fatdog wrote:BUT this product aint FIT FOR PURPOSE, thats why i want a refund.
I dont want a RETURN as after this experience i have lost TOTAL confidence in AKAI.



If that's the situation, pursue it as far as you need to in order to get your money back. You've definitely got a case. The software should be bullet proof by now, but it's obviously not for a lot of users.

Let us know the outcome. 8)
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By JAH Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:37 am
fatdog wrote:I was hoping i wasn't wasting my time on here, complaining as i have far better things to do, BUT this product aint FIT FOR PURPOSE, thats why i want a refund.
I dont want a RETURN as after this experience i have lost TOTAL confidence in AKAI.

You have posted very little in this forum. Reading and re-reading your post, I or some other Ren users could help you out with most of the issues you presented here. If not, we can get the info to the developers that can take a look and address through an update that have been quite frequent....an update almost every other month.

If the Ren is not fit for you, hopefully you haven't exceeded the time period to get a refund. If you can get it exchanged for a new one...that would be a plus as you can turn around and sell it.

Good luck.

Jah...out
By fatdog Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:53 am
Maybe im missing the point here, get a new one and sell it???
Dont get it, I shouldn't be buying something new and after 3months, have to sell it on ebay and take a loss.
This unit should never have been released, it was rushed to compete with maschine and push. That is the bottom line.
A friend of mine also bought the Ren just after me and he has been experiencing the same problems with the new software update.
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By JAH Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:06 am
fatdog wrote:Maybe im missing the point here, get a new one and sell it???
Dont get it, I shouldn't be buying something new and after 3months, have to sell it on ebay and take a loss.
This unit should never have been released, it was rushed to compete with maschine and push. That is the bottom line.
A friend of mine also bought the Ren just after me and he has been experiencing the same problems with the new software update.


1. Return it for a refund if possible
2. Get it exchanged for fully functional hardware unit (if applicable)
3. Sell the used or acquired new Ren for as much as possible
4. Keep it, report issues you find to technical support, and utilize the updates

These are pretty much your options. Nothing else can be said about your issue which is "Are AKAI taking these units back I WANT A RETURN".
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:27 am
fatdog wrote:Anyways, i bought this unit from DV247.
I asked them for a refund and they're said i need to contact AKAI, first and go on from there. Right to the issue.


Okay I am aware that DV247 have a pretty good reputation, so I suspect there's a little more to the statement 'you need to contact Akai first' - what I suspect that means is that they want you to contact Akai to rule out any possibility of user error. I doubt they are trying to pass the buck. So I feel that is good advice - ring Akai, go through the problems, see if they can resolve over the phone. Get a reference number.

If Akai agree there's a fault, then they should sort it out with DV247 and you'll either get a repair or an exchange.

If Akai insist there's no fault , then go back to DV247 and tell them you feel that the unit is faulty, regardless of what Akai say. Explain everything you've told us and why it's been three months before you had a chance to fully 'inspect 'the machine to assess whether or not is was 'fit for purpose'.

Take it from there. Under the Sale of Goods act, your contract is with DV247 and they need to address your concerns. The best course in these situations is to be pleasant, be concise, don't lose your cool, present the facts and know your rights (and let them know that you know your rights). Stand firm, but be nice about it - people are more likely to help if they like you. Remember you no longer have the legal right for a refund (typically you have 1-2 weeks to inspect a purchase to ensure its fit for purpose and if not, demand a refund), so while you can ask for a refund, you cannot demand it. The minimum legal right (after the inspection period) is a repair - but the retailer can, if they choose, exchange it, or ultimately still refund it.

Read more here and give them a ring to clarify:

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england.htm

Regarding the DV247 4 year warranty, remember this warranty is in addition to your rights under the Sale of Goods Act, it is not a replacement to those rights, so while their 4 year warranty is a fantastic bonus, don't lose sight of your fundamental rights under the sale of goods act.

But my understanding from a legal perspective is that you should have inspected the goods carefully immediately after purchase to ensure they were fit for purpose so you could return the goods for a refund. After that, the retailer is only liable to offering a repair. Within the first 6 months, it is up to them to prove the fault wasn't there at the time of purchase. Unfortunately I have no idea what the law is with regard to you updating the software in the meantime and discovering this update has caused additional issues that now mean the product is 'unfit for purpose' - that if definitely a grey area in the law IMO.

BTW, the blank screen (either completely blank or just the word 'MPC' displayed) - I get it sometimes after taking my computer out of standby. First disconnect the USB connection and put it back in - this fixes it most of the time. Otherwise disconnect USB switch the Ren on and off again, then reconnect via USB. You don't normally have to restart the MPC Software at all, so your work isn't lost.
By fatdog Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:48 am
thanks for the reply.
it was just the screen that displays MPC.
i did remove the usb lead after the on/ off didn't work, but still the same.
Thanks for the supportive comments, i do like the machine when it is working correctly.
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:22 am
Is this still ongoing - has the Ren since worked properly or is your unit permanently displaying the 'MPC' words and nothing you do can fix this? There's definitely a problem then, the 'MPC' means it's not communicating properly - it could be hardware, or a driver issue, or just something that went wrong with the MPC Software install.

First try a different USB cable, make sure you are plugged into a proper USB port, not a USB hub port. Reboot everything - computer and Ren.

If it still persists, consider a complete uninstall and reinstall of the software. I have a tutorial I will be uploading in the next couple of days that covers this in more detail, but in the meantime...

Are you on Mac or PC? The Mac version has an uninstaller located in

Macintosh HD > Library > Application Support > Akai > MPC

Run the 'Uninstall MPC' app, then run the 'Uninstall MPC Driver' app. Reboot your computer.

Download the 1.3.1 updater from the Akai site and run this - it may say you haven't
got the MPC app to update - ignore that, it will them let you install 1.3.1 directly.

Install the driver. reboot. Now install the MPC Software. No need to reboot now, but you might want to regardless. See if this helps. You should have driver 2.2.2 installed BTW.

In terms of the Ren, it could have a faulty USB port, this would also cause this issue. But try to rule out the other things first.


fatdog wrote:thanks for the reply.
it was just the screen that displays MPC.
i did remove the usb lead after the on/ off didn't work, but still the same.
Thanks for the supportive comments, i do like the machine when it is working correctly.
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:40 am
Well, that's not a hardware problem, so your argument needs to be centred around the software issues. If you feel the product is a dog - you decided to give AKai a chance to fix the issues, but in your opinion they haven't fixed them and it's unfit for purpose. See what you can negotiate with DV247.

But it sounds like you have an uphill struggle, because your problems are not going to be fixed with a repair or exchange - only a refund will solve your poblems. Unless you are a very smooth talker, I can't see you getting a refund after three months.

Options could include:

* Try to get an exchange for a completely different product - e.g. Maschine or Push
* Bite the bullet and throw it up on Ebay and take a hit.
* Wait it out - 1.4 is coming soon and it features lots of bug fixes
* See if you can work your magic with DV247 and convince them to refund you

fatdog wrote:its working ok now.
But how many more problems??
By Jonespnice1 Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:37 pm
If you've purchased a lot of things from them sometimes companies will give you a longer period to get a refund (especially if you make a fuss). There has been a couple of times that I returned things at the Guitar Center that I purchased 2-3 months prior. Maybe you should call and ask to speak with a manager.