MPC Touch Ram

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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Icepulse Tue May 24, 2016 4:15 pm
Ill-Green wrote:Computers will be obsolete no joke. The future is standalone. Computers will merely play the mother-ship of data, where you dock your devices to but they can be removed and untethered to explore the world. Controllers will be paperweights in the future as well if the support is discontinued unless you kept your old laptop with the last update for that controller.


More likely, your phone will be the brain, with 10x the muscle needed to rock 150-track joints, and you'll connect your pad controller to that.

That way, you're dropping 500-800 bucks, instead of $2,500+.
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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By MPC-Tutor Tue May 24, 2016 4:17 pm
Ill-Green wrote:Controllers will be paperweights in the future as well if the support is discontinued unless you kept your old laptop with the last update for that controller.


No doubt, but when you are paying $400 for an MPC Studio, are you really going to care? This is no doubt part of the business model - keep it cheap and get them to upgrade every couple of years to the latest cheap controller, same way people change their smartphone every 18-24 months.

It's not pretty, nor is it environmentally friendly, but it's where these companies are currently at.

I love my old MPCs (except my MPC5000!), still use them for a lot of stuff, but I just don't see there being a future for a new standalone unit, not as things stand at least. I really just don't see how it can be made 'affordable' compared to the ridiculous profit margins currently achievable for these cheaply made controllers.
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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Lampdog Tue May 24, 2016 4:19 pm
TreHolla wrote:@mpctutor
You pretty much just said it doesn't make sense for mpc to be mpc anymore because everyone has a computer. And you defended them forgetting to or neglecting to be mpc because you are saying that the market is too small and not profitable.

You and your rose colored glasses missed the WHOLE point(s) that Tutor made.

Re: MPC Touch Ram

By DannyBmpc Tue May 24, 2016 7:23 pm
You all do realize that the mpc-60 all the way through the 5000 is a computer right..... The only difference is that the processor was internal before and now it uses your computers processor... Were not talk about a guitar vs. a VST plugin of a guitar. Any standalone mpc is just going to be running the mpc software on a smaller screen on located on your mpc instead of your computer monitor. I think the real issue is the software. Somehow akai found the worst software developers possible. Even if we do get a hardware MPC it is going to be running a version of the software that all of us use today. I think we all forget the limitations of a hardware mpc. The long load times, the limited storage, the editing large samples on a 2 inch screen. Even if akai puts into production the prototype that they showed off at the Microsoft show I would still rather use my computer monitor instead of the little ipad thing they had mounted on the ren 2 prototype. I know my eyes really appreciate being able to edit sample start points on my 21 inch monitor vs my 2000xl's 2 inch screen. Just my thoughts. I think the real issue is the software not the controller vs. standalone argument....

Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Stoney79 Tue May 24, 2016 8:28 pm
- I think people are "barking up the wrong tree". My opinion is that Akai Professional died when either Roger Linn left Akai, or when they went from Akai Electric Corp. to M.I Corp . There design and there ideas went a whole other direction. Although the Akai Mpc 4000 was a cool machine. It lost the ease of use and the operating functionality of a classic Akai O.S. Although I still feel that the Akai "MPC" should still be a dedicated sequencer/ drum phase sampler. However, with the new line of MPC's. I see no point of them limiting themselves with additional features that were never implemented on the classic machines. As long as the new implemented features don't clutter the interface display, and lose the user friendly approach - putting the "Professional" back into the Akai. What made classic Akai standalone machines great. Was that you could master that machine inside and out, because the O.S back then were mostly bug fixes, rather than a overhaul. Familiarity, workflow, and ease of use was always my needs with these machines. I never cared too much about how they sounded or how much RAM was in the machine. Was more concerned about a better way to save and organize my work. Most Akai samplers always sounded similar and nothing drastically different IMHO. Nothing to lose sleep over.
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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Lampdog Tue May 24, 2016 9:06 pm
Stoney79 wrote:Nothing to lose sleep over.



This.

'cept for Midi headphones. I'm losing sleep over those.

Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Stoney79 Tue May 24, 2016 10:07 pm
Lampdog wrote:
Stoney79 wrote:Nothing to lose sleep over.



This.

'cept for Midi headphones. I'm losing sleep over those.


- Lol! Good luck with that. I gave up on midi years ago.

Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Stoney79 Tue May 24, 2016 11:24 pm
TreHolla wrote:I don't know if you're trolling me. You totally just used semantics to try to justify why MPC totally dropped the ball on making a "fictitious hybrid beast." You have a website called MPC tutor, and you have all of that knowledge on MPC's and then you skipped the MPC 2500 and MPC 1000 AND MPC 5000 to refute the idea of a newer hybrid MPC?

And then you go on about how much more expensive it would be. And again neglect the idea of a simple improvement (but isn't really an improvement considering the fact that it is a sampler first!)

Maybe the gas powered to electric comparison wasn't a very good analogy. Here's a better one.

An analogy that might make this easier to understand since we're talking about markets, profitability, economics, and moving units. Is again a car.

If I make a car and it has all sorts of features, and I put a touch screen in the dash, with bluetooth capabilities, auxiliary in for your mp3 player, or even go so far as make everything wireless. That's awesome right? Those are improvements. I hop in the car you're telling me all about this stuff, and I'm excited and I wanna purchase it, because I've bought your products in the past, and you turn on the a/c. Awesome.

We're riding on a country road, or scenic view, and I wanna roll the windows down.

You can't roll the windows down.

Why not?

I don't know you just can't. We didn't add that feature.

But you had that feature in the past? I should always be able to roll the windows down. All your other cars have been made, with the function/feature to roll the windows down. Why can't I roll the windows down?

You don't need to roll the windows down. We've got ice cold air conditioning.

But I as a customer like to ride with the windows down. A/C is fine, but why the hell make the car and forget to add the ability to roll the windows down.

Who forgot to allow me to roll the windows down?

Whatever man, just buy an old one!



- Your analogy is way too left field. It's more like automatic windows vs. manual rolled up windows. In life in general. When you gain something, you will always lose something. As long as it doesn't effective what you are solely wanting to achieve. You just have to deal with it, and grow accustom to it. You can't expect to have everything. That's why a lot of people fall back on older pieces of music equipment. Because sometimes having all thoses features and everything done for you with a click of a button. You lose the creative process, and feel more like a programmer than a musician. But I'm not sure your history with these Akai machines. So I don't know what you grownef accustom to, and what is need for your workflow etc. I started using these machines in the mid 90's, so I guess I had to deal with some limitations. But I'm a sample based head, so I don't need much to get the job done. It's seems more like you have GAS issues.

Re: MPC Touch Ram

By TreHolla Wed May 25, 2016 4:08 am
no use arguing about it. I just wanted to know how much RAM the MPC Touch has. I got my answer. All of that's not necessary, and the reason I don't post that often anyway.

Keep making music.
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First, know what RAM is and does.

By Lampdog Wed May 25, 2016 3:19 pm
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/R/RAM.html

RAM (pronounced ramm) is an acronym for random access memory, a type of computer memory that can be accessed randomly; that is, any byte of memory can be accessed without touching the preceding bytes. RAM is the most common type of memory found in computers and other devices, such as printers.


MPC Touch uses your computer for all of this, not itself, hence it's a controller.
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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By MPC-Tutor Wed May 25, 2016 3:36 pm
TreHolla wrote:no use arguing about it. I just wanted to know how much RAM the MPC Touch has. I got my answer. All of that's not necessary, and the reason I don't post that often anyway. .


Lol, well, your several very long ranting posts (after your initial question was answered) about the lack of standalone suggest the absolute opposite :smoker:

Anyway, nothing wrong with a good discussion. This is a 'discussion forum' after all.
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Re: MPC Touch Ram

By Icepulse Wed May 25, 2016 3:52 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:
TreHolla wrote:no use arguing about it. I just wanted to know how much RAM the MPC Touch has. I got my answer. All of that's not necessary, and the reason I don't post that often anyway. .


Lol, well, your several very long ranting posts (after your initial question was answered) about the lack of standalone suggest the absolute opposite :smoker:

Anyway, nothing wrong with a good discussion. This is a 'discussion forum' after all.


Right. I mean, don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out, bro!
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