The Competition??!!

inflict3 wrote:I have friends who **** about it all the time.

I assumed as much. As most threads about MPC 5000 issues in this forum are from non-owners. While the MPC 5000 is not flawless, it is still a good MPC.

The MPC 1000 pad issue was about 8 years ago. While I can't speak on the MPC 500 (as I have never owned one)..the pad issue is no longer a problem.

Yea. But the os issues are still a problem. Also their mod line has shitty pad issues and tact switch issues. They are a cheap company.

Given the apparent success of maschine, It makes me wonder if Roland and Korg are up to something, they all have a history of pad based sequencers, esp. roland with the Mv series; surely they must not be blind to the possibilty of a marketing bonanza? So I'm thinking competition to the maschine and the Ren.

JAH wrote:

inflict3 wrote:I have friends who **** about it all the time.

I assumed as much. As most threads about MPC 5000 issues in this forum are from non-owners. While the MPC 5000 is not flawless, it is still a good MPC.

The MPC 1000 pad issue was about 8 years ago. While I can't speak on the MPC 500 (as I have never owned one)..the pad issue is no longer a problem.

well, of course YOU like the mpc5000, jah... your name is even in the credits...




and how the hell are you gonna say the pads are no longer a problem on the MPC1000 when there are still thousands and thousands of MPCs out there with the old pads that AKAI couldn't be bothered to replace?? that would be like if they were to release a 2.0 version of the software and make the first people that jumped on buying the Renaissance have to PAY an extra $200 for the upgrade!!

crossings wrote:

JAH wrote:

inflict3 wrote:I have friends who **** about it all the time.

I assumed as much. As most threads about MPC 5000 issues in this forum are from non-owners. While the MPC 5000 is not flawless, it is still a good MPC.

The MPC 1000 pad issue was about 8 years ago. While I can't speak on the MPC 500 (as I have never owned one)..the pad issue is no longer a problem.

well, of course YOU like the mpc5000, jah... your name is even in the credits...




and how the hell are you gonna say the pads are no longer a problem on the MPC1000 when there are still thousands and thousands of MPCs out there with the old pads that AKAI couldn't be bothered to replace?? that would be like if they were to release a 2.0 version of the software and make the first people that jumped on buying the Renaissance have to PAY an extra $200 for the upgrade!!

And since that is the case, as an actual MPC 5000 user/tester, I know first hand the limitations/flaws of the MPC 5000. A I said earlier, I clearly outlined any issues I had with it in the MPC 5000 forum. The MPC 5000 still has some bugs in the OS....but at the same time...the same is true with alot of hardware samplers...and software samplers are not even close to being as stable as hardware samplers. If I needed a new MPC today...without hestitation, I would buy an MPC 5000 or 2500.

The MPC 1000s pad design is well documented. If your pads failed during the 1 to 3 years it was under warranty (depending on where you purchased it), your pads go replaced with little to no cost to you. Beyond the warranty, you are on your own in most cases no matter what product you choose. So buying your 1000 on eBay doesn't cover you. My feelings on the MPC 1000 is also well documented in these forums. When it was released, I dubbed it the worst MPC ever made. But when Akai redesigned the pad sensors, I gave it my stamp of approval. I actually purchased two MPC 1000s myself. Again...this was a long azz time ago..this is no longer an issue. And nobody cares about the original MPC 1000s on the market with crappy pads that you are not forced to buy.

there are still stores that carry old stock MPC1000s and sell them for full price [mainly foreign countries, but they're still out there for full price.. not only used on eBay]. AKAI never did a proper recall or anything of the sort with what they knew to be a faulty product that they released. they didn't even announce the pad fix being installed in the newer MPC1000s because they knew how shady their actions were. the only reason anyone even became aware of them switching out the old pads for the newer ones was because of customers complaining on this forum. plenty of people wrote AKAI letters and got LIED TO saying that there was no such thing... and don't lie, the warranty did NOT cover the pad upgrade!! don't make me dig those letters up, because they're on this forum. it's a very shady thing that AKAI did... they fvcked their customers over big time and have yet to address the issue. please just stop standing up for them for no good reason. you're obviously on the AKAI team, as you too are reluctant to admit what is obviously wrong with this entire situation.

crossings wrote:there are still stores that carry old stock MPC1000s and sell them for full price [mainly foreign countries, but they're still out there for full price.. not only used on eBay]. AKAI never did a proper recall or anything of the sort with what they knew to be a faulty product that they released. they didn't even announce the pad fix being installed in the newer MPC1000s because they knew how shady their actions were. the only reason anyone even became aware of them switching out the old pads for the newer ones was because of customers complaining on this forum. plenty of people wrote AKAI letters and got LIED TO saying that there was no such thing... and don't lie, the warranty did NOT cover the pad upgrade!! don't make me dig those letters up, because they're on this forum. it's a very shady thing that AKAI did... they fvcked their customers over big time and have yet to address the issue. please just stop standing up for them for no good reason. you're obviously on the AKAI team, as you too are reluctant to admit what is obviously wrong with this entire situation.

I am living in a foreign country and I have yet to see a store selling the original MPC 1000s. And if someone just happen to buy a brand new original MPC 1000..it is under warranty like any new product. I will repeat...if you purchased an MPC and the pads become faulty during warranty...they will be fixed. Whether this means using the same pad design or new pad upgrade...your issue will be taken care of.

Dude...did you miss me saying that I felt the MPC 1000 was the worst MPC ever made? Visit the MPC 1000 forum when I use to tease MPC 1000 users for buying it after I told many members the MPC 2500 was a better choice.

While I beta tested MPC software...I am not employed by Akai. And you know this. So lets continue to have a respectful conversation without misleading people.

Do I believe Akai could have handled the pad fix better? Yes. Do I believe Akai should have provided the pad upgrade free of charge for MPCs still under warranty? Yes. For MPCs not under warranty? No way. Was the pad redesigned approx 8 years ago? Yes.

Will you still be talking about MPC 1000 pad upgrades another 10 years after the issue has been addressed?

crossings wrote:

JAH wrote:

inflict3 wrote:I have friends who **** about it all the time.

I assumed as much. As most threads about MPC 5000 issues in this forum are from non-owners. While the MPC 5000 is not flawless, it is still a good MPC.

The MPC 1000 pad issue was about 8 years ago. While I can't speak on the MPC 500 (as I have never owned one)..the pad issue is no longer a problem.

well, of course YOU like the mpc5000, jah... your name is even in the credits...




and how the hell are you gonna say the pads are no longer a problem on the MPC1000 when there are still thousands and thousands of MPCs out there with the old pads that AKAI couldn't be bothered to replace?? that would be like if they were to release a 2.0 version of the software and make the first people that jumped on buying the Renaissance have to PAY an extra $200 for the upgrade!!

hahahahahhaha!! go figure. crossings always pulls out the dirt on ****, good job man, this clown jah is all on akais nuts, they are just out for the money as usual, buyers beware, akai has got their cronies up on these forums to talk up the new products, just remenber the past and never forget the old products that they put out and never fixed, the shitty mpc1000 os that crashes and stalls all the time forcing you to buy jjos, dont ever forget the shitty pads in the original 1000 or in the mpd line, dont forget the shitty ipod app, dont forget the shitty 500 os, or the shitty 5000 os that all our friends complain about time and time again,.. see akai was once the shit back in the 60, 2000, and 2000xl days, but that was a different akai, now its numark who owns the akai name, what a different story.. jerome fuller huh?? so u own maschine too??

jah: the pad fix was 5 years ago, not 8. i was obviously not talking about highly developed countries like Japan when i mentioned foreign countries carrying the old MPC... i'm speaking of south america, africa, scandinavian countries, etc... and i have yet to hear of a single case where AKAI upgraded someone's pads for the newer ones.

inflict: i can't take credit for that pic... it was originally leaked by james jeffrey. and i'm not even kidding here...

inflict3 wrote:akai was once the **** back in the 60, 2000, and 2000xl days, but that was a different akai, now its numark who owns the akai name, what a different story.. jerome fuller huh?? so u own maschine too??

Your comments tell me you are not well versed on MPCs. The MPC 2000XL can not match the MPC 2500 on any level...regardless of which OS you choose.

Every sampler I currently own/use is listed in my signature...to include Maschine. In fact, I just got the Groove 3 "Maschine Explained" DVD in the mail today.

crossings wrote:jah: the pad fix was 5 years ago, not 8. i was obviously not talking about highly developed countries like Japan when i mentioned foreign countries carrying the old MPC... i'm speaking of south america, africa, scandinavian countries, etc... and i have yet to hear of a single case where AKAI upgraded someone's pads for the newer ones.

inflict: i can't take credit for that pic... it was originally leaked by james jeffrey. and i'm not even kidding here...

James Jeffrey didn't "leak" my pic. He found it in the MV Forum where I am not too popular....hell, I am not too popular here because of my views.

5 yrs..6 yrs...8 yrs....doesn't really matter. That is still a long time ago and no longer an issue. It seems silly to be talking about MPCs available in undeveloped countries. You are obviously not a big fan of Akai products. I have never had a bad experience using Akai products. Anytime I had an issue, it was taken care of professionally. That is why I am still interested in Numark/Akai MPCs. I am sorry you don't feel the same way.

There is nothing wrong with using your MPC 1000 with the pad upgrade and JJ OS. More power to you.

I want to know WHY there's a chibi lady on the screen? What sampler ever had a chibi lady on the screen??

Look no further than the MPC 4000.........

The DPS16 had her as well....

lots of people got lemon 2500s, the old mpcs were built like tanks. i prefer newer mpcs though, just wish the parts were better, i own maschine too, but that dont matter, all that matters is i dont know what the **** im talking about.. ive got an old broken 2000, a 1000, a 500, and we did hella projects at school on a 4000. dont get me wrong, i love mpcs, i just dislike akai for not making em the best

inflict3 wrote:lots of people got lemon 2500s, the old mpcs were built like tanks. i prefer newer mpcs though, just wish the parts were better, i own maschine too, but that dont matter, all that matters is i dont know what the **** im talking about.. ive got an old broken 2000, a 1000, a 500, and we did hella projects at school on a 4000. dont get me wrong, i love mpcs, i just dislike akai for not making em the best

Well...I guess I am lucky. I have never purchased a lemon MPC.

How much was the "older, built like tanks" MPCs?