Bug reports & end-user support for Akai's MPC Software 'controllers' including the new MPC Studio 2, the MPC Touch, MPC Renaissance & original MPC Studio and MPC StudioB lack.
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By TheUnfuckwithable Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:35 am
JAH wrote:There is no product on the market today built like the MPC 3000. I don't need to comment any further as the MPC Ren will have the same design.


do you own the ren already and have taken it apart? or are you just speculating based on some product managers´ bla bla?

or are you that wakai product manager?

:lol:
By xparis001 Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:09 pm
Akai product manager guy here. After reading this thread, your concerns are all well noted. Originally, our intention was to copy the MPC3000 buttons exactly, but now I'm seeing that this could potentially cause issues. I think dimension-wise, the actual button size is great, but the internal mechanism on the older button style needs improvement.

I spoke to our mechanical engineer, and we've come up with a plan. We're going to add support reinforcements to the four corners of the larger button, and the furthest axis on the swing on the medium and small buttons. these support reinforcements will stop the button throw so the hinge isn't over-extended. The constant over-extension was most likely the cause of the old buttons snapping off like they did.

So in short, the renaissance transport buttons will be the same dimensions as the MPC3000, but will have additional reinforements on the four corners of the actual corners to protect the hinge.

thanks guys,

-Dan
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:43 pm
xparis001 wrote:Akai product manager guy here. After reading this thread, your concerns are all well noted. Originally, our intention was to copy the MPC3000 buttons exactly, but now I'm seeing that this could potentially cause issues. I think dimension-wise, the actual button size is great, but the internal mechanism on the older button style needs improvement.

I spoke to our mechanical engineer, and we've come up with a plan. We're going to add support reinforcements to the four corners of the larger button, and the furthest axis on the swing on the medium and small buttons. these support reinforcements will stop the button throw so the hinge isn't over-extended. The constant over-extension was most likely the cause of the old buttons snapping off like they did.

So in short, the renaissance transport buttons will be the same dimensions as the MPC3000, but will have additional reinforements on the four corners of the actual corners to protect the hinge.

thanks guys,

-Dan



Sweeeeeet! 8)
By Flux302 Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:43 pm
Thanks to hellfire for letting me know about this thread. Yep I bang on my buttons ... Not just live but in the studio, do I hit em like I do my pads? No but do I smack em good an quick hell yes. I do alot of start and stopping etc, I have had 4 2kxl all with broken transports (even when treated nicely) dobibhit the transport harder than I should? No... Not at all the hinges snap because of the design, the repeated up and down snaps them, the button trigger underneath is always fine because I dont hit it crazy hard but I do trigger as a Dj would trigger his 1200 to start and stop because especially live, I need that fast action.
I'm really glad to hear they are improving the design, just cause the 3k was built like a tank didn't mean it didn't have room for improvement. Thai shouldn't even e an argument. I honestly don't know anyone locally who doesn't have free floating transport buttons in their case. It doesn't mean the mpc wasn't built great it just means those buttons could be improved. And I'm glad to hear that they will be.
But I just wanted to clarify when I say I bang buttons... I'm not punchin my mpc, though I am moving fast.
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By Coz Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:51 pm
Flux302 wrote:Yep I bang on my buttons ...



I've got a mate who breaks qwerty keyboards on the regular, so you're not alone! :lol:

I used to jab at my XL buttons a bit too hard and they because really loose. After reading the responses in here they must have been broken, but I never took it apart to check.
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By DJ Hellfire Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:51 pm
Flux302 wrote:Thanks to hellfire for letting me know about this thread. Yep I bang on my buttons ... Not just live but in the studio, do I hit em like I do my pads? No but do I smack em good an quick hell yes. I do alot of start and stopping etc, I have had 4 2kxl all with broken transports (even when treated nicely) dobibhit the transport harder than I should? No... Not at all the hinges snap because of the design, the repeated up and down snaps them, the button trigger underneath is always fine because I dont hit it crazy hard but I do trigger as a Dj would trigger his 1200 to start and stop because especially live, I need that fast action.
I'm really glad to hear they are improving the design, just cause the 3k was built like a tank didn't mean it didn't have room for improvement. Thai shouldn't even e an argument. I honestly don't know anyone locally who doesn't have free floating transport buttons in their case. It doesn't mean the mpc wasn't built great it just means those buttons could be improved. And I'm glad to hear that they will be.
But I just wanted to clarify when I say I bang buttons... I'm not punchin my mpc, though I am moving fast.



No doubt kid! 8) Agree 100%!
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By Retrofreak Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:07 am
xparis001 wrote:Akai product manager guy here. After reading this thread, your concerns are all well noted. Originally, our intention was to copy the MPC3000 buttons exactly, but now I'm seeing that this could potentially cause issues. I think dimension-wise, the actual button size is great, but the internal mechanism on the older button style needs improvement.

I spoke to our mechanical engineer, and we've come up with a plan. We're going to add support reinforcements to the four corners of the larger button, and the furthest axis on the swing on the medium and small buttons. these support reinforcements will stop the button throw so the hinge isn't over-extended. The constant over-extension was most likely the cause of the old buttons snapping off like they did.

So in short, the renaissance transport buttons will be the same dimensions as the MPC3000, but will have additional reinforements on the four corners of the actual corners to protect the hinge.




-Dan



Thank you!!

If you can make the buttons look exactly like the classic MPC 60/3000 buttons, but with reinforced hinges your onto a winner!!
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By JAH Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:57 am
I think the "Things to Rant About" list is getting shorter. :P
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By JAH Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:25 pm
**** wrote:are you akai fanboys really that stupid?

nukai wants to sell you their new products so they pretend to care, etc. bla bla

:lol:

it´s like an election campaign

:roll:

I will reply being that I am an Akai MPC Fanboy. Why do you even care what us fanboys spend our money on? I personally didn't ask for anyone's advice regarding my purchase decisions. But since you obviously care what people here are doing, please recommend an alternative to the MPC Ren for us to consider.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

J