Suggestion for an alternative Shift function method!

xparis001 wrote:is that a dealbreaker?

NO WAY, 200ms is more than fast enough, I dont know anyone that has to switch a mode that fast, but for the folder buttons you could just keep those the same.

it makes pefect sense the toggle function, press button once to access function of black writing, press twice, orange writing, etc...

Simple. No confusion at all! LOL

I don't understand the confusion, sure no one would press the button twice at the moment as it doesn't have a function?

Dan: you guys really need to add a page in settings to allow to turn on/off functions like this, default is turned off and no one will get confused. The enduser should be able to setup how things should work to some extend, ppl on this forum say this all the time: more options to do things differently..

nice idea!

JAH wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

xparis001 wrote:the problem is you have a product out in the world, and suddenly, buttons that are all labeled the same are doing different things. Its confusing. Not everyone understands the logic, and not everyone's on the forum. if the hardware is marked with orange silk screening, all buttons affected by it have to act the same.

Ah, I see what you're saying!

That is why the SHIFT lock function would be a good compromise.

Elaborate!

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Elaborate!

Jah wrote:[SHIFT] button is used to access secondary functions/modes of other buttons. [SHIFT] button must be held down while another button is pressed.

I suggest to make the [SHIFT] button a toggle button. Pressing it once, engages it and keeps it on until you press it again to disengage it. This will allow users access secondary functions of other buttons without holding down the [SHIFT] button.

I really like this idea. It is like having a Mode button that you can lock.

JAH wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Elaborate!

Jah wrote:[SHIFT] button is used to access secondary functions/modes of other buttons. [SHIFT] button must be held down while another button is pressed.

I suggest to make the [SHIFT] button a toggle button. Pressing it once, engages it and keeps it on until you press it again to disengage it. This will allow users access secondary functions of other buttons without holding down the [SHIFT] button.

I really like this idea. It is like having a Mode button that you can lock.

Coming from the MV I'd rather have a shift-lock option. I want it out of familiarity, but really don't know if it would be better on this platform based on this workflow...would work well for the pads banks, but then when moving from pad banks to the mode buttons I could see myself forgetting the lock was engaged (since the button can't illuminate) and continually ending up on the wrong screen. Would have to get used to it I guess...

xparis001 wrote:Im not hating the toggle idea... hm. We'll have to see what we come up with

From an ergonomic perspective, the Note Repeat button would make a great user definable second Shift button.

It'd be more useful than a function that people use 0.01% of the time.

JAH wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Elaborate!

Jah wrote:[SHIFT] button is used to access secondary functions/modes of other buttons. [SHIFT] button must be held down while another button is pressed.

I suggest to make the [SHIFT] button a toggle button. Pressing it once, engages it and keeps it on until you press it again to disengage it. This will allow users access secondary functions of other buttons without holding down the [SHIFT] button.

I really like this idea. It is like having a Mode button that you can lock.

The only problem I have with this is that the shift button doesn't have an LED. How will you know when it's engaged?

DJ Hellfire wrote:

JAH wrote:

DJ Hellfire wrote:

Elaborate!

Jah wrote:[SHIFT] button is used to access secondary functions/modes of other buttons. [SHIFT] button must be held down while another button is pressed.

I suggest to make the [SHIFT] button a toggle button. Pressing it once, engages it and keeps it on until you press it again to disengage it. This will allow users access secondary functions of other buttons without holding down the [SHIFT] button.

I really like this idea. It is like having a Mode button that you can lock.

The only problem I have with this is that the shift button doesn't have an LED. How will you know when it's engaged?

I can't think of everything.

Perhaps and a small indicator in the LCD that it is on.