MPC-Tutor wrote:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
MPC-Tutor wrote:However, the software should be able to be used standalone if desired, there should definitely be no requirement to hook up a Ren/Studio/Dongle in order for it to work standalone without any limitations.
MPC-Tutor wrote:Blue Haze wrote:Totally agree with the ability to use the software partly alone outside the controller like maschine does in a limited version. However selling software separately from the hardware would made the whole point of the new gear moot. Maschine solid separately from the software would not have been as successful. When you have Geist, Bpm and other that can do the same thing with older nonintergrated controllers. My point being that dedicated controllers makes software more intuitive like natural hardware.
Yep, I completely agree that the software shouldn't be sold standalone, the main point of the product is that it's a perfect marriage of hardware and software. However, the software should be able to be used standalone if desired, there should definitely be no requirement to hook up a Ren/Studio/Dongle in order for it to work standalone without any limitations.
And really, there's no point limiting this as it will get cracked and that leaves legitimate, paid up users wondering why they are the only ones not able to take advantage of the standalone software features. But this is nothing new -
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
DJ Premier wrote:...A lot of new cats out now do not know the history.
gertie wrote:yes indeed, a cracked version of maschine software doesnt exist...and nobody uses it
how could i have been so wrong
ps as mentioned by someone else, it might be useful for some cats to to do some final editing using the software alone? say when travelling.....using the ren and notebook on a plane might be cumbersome
of course to get the true benefits the controller is needed.....no one ever said otherwise....however using software alone, i imagine its just some extra effort involved...eg 5 mouse clicks instead of rotating a dial directly....who knows...all will be revealed once its on the market
jpeg wrote:...u loose the benefits cos u then have to use the mouse to do all ur menu work.
JAH wrote:MPC-Tutor wrote:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
I can't stop laughing. This is one of my favorite, must see shows every week and I went through this exact same scenario.
zippertafari wrote:You'll find that not knowing right now what these new MPCs are actually like to work with and sound like is the #1 complaint of MPC Forum members that say that they will pass on these new MPCs
sparq wrote:exactly. that's why i said it should come with the controller AND a dongle. use the dongle when the controller is not plugged in. like when you are on the go. i understand software gets pirated all the time.
It's bad enough I have to use one for Pro Tools and all my plugins! If Akai went the dongle route, I'd prefer they use iLok instead of their own since many people already have them!DJ Hellfire wrote:Honestly though, the last thing I want is another dongle!
DJ Hellfire wrote:Honestly though, the last thing I want is another dongle!
MPC-Tutor wrote:Yep, this is another problem with dongles, everyone wants to push their own system - sorry, but my Macbook only has 2 USB ports. Maybe that's why Apple doesn't use dongles for their software!
jpeg wrote:u should not need a dongle for the software dats a wack idea
DJ Premier wrote:...A lot of new cats out now do not know the history.
sparq wrote:DJ Hellfire wrote:Honestly though, the last thing I want is another dongle!MPC-Tutor wrote:Yep, this is another problem with dongles, everyone wants to push their own system - sorry, but my Macbook only has 2 USB ports. Maybe that's why Apple doesn't use dongles for their software!
I agree. my macbook air only has 2 usb ports also. i am not saying an "AKAI" dongle. it could be one that uses iLok. a lot of software uses ilok. my reason uses ignition key and pro tools uses iLok.jpeg wrote:u should not need a dongle for the software dats a wack idea
if done right, it wouldn't be a 'wack' idea. don't get me wrong... I'm not trying to promote the sale of the software as a standalone product at all. i'm just saying to add to some people's complaint that they would want to work on a song while they are temporarily away from the controller. Not to create a beat but to mix or track... like i said when you are not in front of the controller.
me personally, i wouldn't want to use the software by itself. it will stay connected to the controller. (i want the ren)
Alas, this probably wouldn't happen anyway. it doesn't matter to me one way or the other. I already know how and to what capacity i want to use the ren. the thing is not even out yet and I can't wait for the rewire support update.
jpeg wrote:gertie wrote:yes indeed, a cracked version of maschine software doesnt exist...and nobody uses it
how could i have been so wrong
ps as mentioned by someone else, it might be useful for some cats to to do some final editing using the software alone? say when travelling.....using the ren and notebook on a plane might be cumbersome
of course to get the true benefits the controller is needed.....no one ever said otherwise....however using software alone, i imagine its just some extra effort involved...eg 5 mouse clicks instead of rotating a dial directly....who knows...all will be revealed once its on the market
of course cracked software exsists however ur idea that akai should sell the ren software seprately so u can use if with other controllers is where ur foolishness kicks in.
cos the magic with these systems is the integration of the software and hardware, if u buy another controller to use the with mpcs software or to use with maschine software u loose the benefits cos u then have to use the mouse to do all ur menu work.
