Man, your ability to twist my words out of context and miss what I am saying seems to know no bounds. You seem incapable of keeping anything in context, and with each statement you make I seriously doubt you hear or understand music at any depth or level. You miss the fact that I (am) was trying to give BT a chance, but you keep snipping at one point and missing completely.
First I said that BT doesn’t allow you to record quantized and non quantized drums on the same track. You come back with a video that shows a cat with two tracks, one quantized and one un quantized and parade that like it’s the same thing, and then banter some advice like I don’t understand the unit.
You reply to my layout of how to quantize tracks separately to create a complex groove, as you can not mix quantize values on one track on BT with yet again another miss, a cat doing everything in 16nths, after I mentioned 32nds, triplets, whatever. You also call it complex, I call it simple, but that’s fine, some simple beats are cool. But I definitely wouldn’t call it complex. And as I am a trained musician who, by your lack of knowledge about rhythm and music, most definitely have years of time with a metronome on you, believe me, it’s not on the 16nth note level that I require quantize.
But this one takes the cake. And I can see how your mind works through it. And your lack of ear. See if you can follow this logical sequence. I said that mixing quantize levels is useful so that complex grooves that one might try to lay down DON’T GET SLOPPY. Since you refused to understand why quantizing at different levels could be useful I asked you to act like some young kid who doesn’t know how to play in time, and quantize a sloppy hi hat at 16nths so it sounds tight. Now that kid tries to lay down a faster time value and his previously TIGHT hi hat track sounds sloppy, but if it could retain it’s 16nth note quantize as he overdubs something new, it wouldn’t sound sloppy. Are you really that dense!?!? Or are you trying to trick people into thinking that I am saying something different so you don’t have to deal with real knowledge. I never said anything about being sloppy as a choice, I was saying the exact opposite. Of why quantize is useful so one doesn’t get sloppy. In fact! Just to make my argument, I had to get the BT out and try playing sloppy on purpose to make sure that this quantize issue is there as I see it.
AND THEN!
By completely misinterpreting my recommendation for you to go test out why quantizing at separate levels is useful, as in it would not let any sloppiness through, you not only have the nerve to act like I was condoning and recommending sloppy playing, somehow you mixed it up and put it on a cat like Dave Weckl. Dave Weckl is one of the epitomes of precision and jazz drumming. There are cats in jazz I like even more, but to call Dave Weckl sloppy? You serious? Really? And then comparing him to Neil Peart who while a great and respected drummer can’t even touch Dave Weckl’s reputation as a drummer in the jazz, fusion, Afro-Cuban styles? Sloppy? Did all those Latin grooves he was coming in and out of sound sloppy? Do you find Jazz and Latin music sloppy and therefore by extension Hip Hop sloppy as well? Do you prefer Justin Bieber? Afro-Cuban Jazz not Vanilla enough for you???? You can’t find the 2 and 4 unless someone stomps 1 and 3 for you? Dave Weckl sloppy??? You have any idea how much credibility you lost? Here is another cat in the same vein who you will probably find sloppy. Another of the greats. I guess you could always put on some Nickelback instead.
(really? I still can’t believe it… It’s like you just called DJ Premier too country..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWQjqWiGzh8
I beg to differ though, as I have read this thread and know more about the BT than ever. so thanks
